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Topic: Medieval playing cards
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Gwen
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posted 08-25-2004 01:00 PM
    
Historic Enterprises is the US rep for these cards, as well as other other highly authentic reproduction prints offered by Jorge Kelman, dba in the UK as The Guild of St. Luke.Playing Cards
1470s German, probably Alsace. Original size.
The set is copied from an uncut sheet of cards. 6 or more of the cards were missing; replacements for the aces and 10s were based on other cards of similar era. Two of the knaves were missing so replacements were adapted from the two that remained. The colour scheme planned for this set is not known so colouring is based on other surviving examples. This set is unusual in that the kings are on horseback, usually they were portrayed seated on thrones. The cards are printed on three layers of conservation grade paper laminated together by hand with flour paste like the originals. The outers layers are high quality paper and the core is pasteboard, a low grade conservation paper made up of all the residue from the other makings. The playing cards we have are from a limited edition set of 100. Cards come wrapped in conservation paper and have a St Luke Ox on the top sheet and are string bound. The Ox top sheet also has the edition number on it. Edition numbers on the 2 of acorns are in Latin, eg xxi/c with maker's signature. All prints are hand drawn from original sources or in some cases are originals works in a period style. The printing blocks are cut by hand. Each print is made one at a time on a hand press on hand made conservation paper used for repairing/restoring paper manuscripts and early printed works. Each print is a high quality reproduction made as close to the original in design and manufacture as possible. We currently have several sets of the limited edition playing cards available at $55 the set. We also have poison labels, a map and devotional prints in several sizes and styles in stock. Devotional "patron saint" prints are in the works and we hope to have at least a few saints available by Christmas. It will be several weeks before we can get these items on the website so anyone interested in them should email me directly for more info- gwen@historicenterprises.com Gwen
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Martin
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posted 08-26-2004 05:59 AM
[ 08-26-2004: Message edited by: Martin ] -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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Martin
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posted 08-27-2004 04:57 AM
[ 09-01-2004: Message edited by: Martin ] -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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gregory23b
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posted 08-31-2004 07:04 AM
Hi all, I am the producer of the three ply decks as mentioned by Mike, thanks btw, although we are not acquainted.I am not going to enter the debate over who does what, I do know that the first batch of cards of my limited edition three ply has sold out and the next batch is underway. And maybe $55 dollars sounds a lot, I would argue that for an ordinary set of off the shelf playing cards that would indeed be over the odds. However in my situation the cards are not merely made on handmade paper, they are made on archive paper, and that is a substantial material cost. Also the preparation of the cards subsequent to printing takes some considerable time. All that in order to make the best set of cards that I can. And yes I charge accordingly. What we charge and what we feel our goods and time are worth is up to us and our customers and I am lucky in that my customers so far even when offered the cheaper 2 ply set have still opted for the three, at £25 sterling (not accounting for exchange rates). ------- Interesting to note that I have had a look at company 14's pic and see one of my old decks, one that I produced in 1993/4, or at least one based on it (the lighter pack that is), in that two variations which only occur on my original set are clearly visible, I have a set here and have just compared them. So I am flattered that at some point an earlier deck of mine was used, although full credit must of course go to the unamed Alsatian card maker, to whom we as modern day card makers salute. I have to say that it is nice to see good cards being used in the right context. So best of luck Dave. Myself and a friend are hoping very much to visit Archaeon, maybe we could go out for a beer while we are there? regards Jorge -------------------- history is in the hands of the marketing department - beware!
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Martin
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posted 08-31-2004 03:52 PM
[ 09-01-2004: Message edited by: Martin ] -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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gregory23b
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posted 08-31-2004 04:05 PM
[ 09-02-2004: Message edited by: gregory23b ] -------------------- history is in the hands of the marketing department - beware!
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Martin
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posted 09-01-2004 03:33 AM
[ 09-01-2004: Message edited by: Martin ] -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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gregory23b
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posted 09-01-2004 05:31 AM
[ 09-02-2004: Message edited by: gregory23b ] -------------------- history is in the hands of the marketing department - beware!
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Martin
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posted 09-01-2004 06:47 AM
[ 09-01-2004: Message edited by: Martin ] -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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gregory23b
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posted 09-01-2004 07:34 AM
[ 09-02-2004: Message edited by: gregory23b ] -------------------- history is in the hands of the marketing department - beware!
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