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Fitz
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posted 09-03-2001 10:06 PM     Profile for Fitz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
i am going to be making myself hosen and a doublet and i was wondering what weight of wool you would recommend for each.i know that wool jersey is mentioned for hosen does it come in various weights or is there only one weight.also what weight of linen would be appropriate for the braies and shirt i was leaning toward a medium weight but i am not sure.i want them to be as authentic as possible so i would love to hear recommendations from the expierenced seamstresses on the board so i don,t waste my money on the wrong cloth.also could anyone tell me were to find an appropriate doublet pattern? i have the hosen pattern but am at a loss for the doublet.i appreciate any help you can give on this matter.thank you
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Fire Stryker
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posted 09-04-2001 07:08 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Fitz,
while not one of the clothing gurus on the board, I thought I would ask the traditional set of questions.

1) What time period?

2) What class/profession?

3) Geographic region?

Even if you posted this before in another thread, it may have gotten buried and a refresher would help.

While not as well read or experienced as many, knit isn't authentic but worsted is. However, the pattern would probably be much more difficult to cut and wear.

Quality of linen would also probably depend on social standing in your chosen time period, but should be white.

I cannot answer for weight on the linen, our shirts tend to be on the light side. I suppose it would all depend on the climate you are playing in and when you plan on going to events.

One of our members has a very nice heavy wool doublet that he will only be able to wear in the cooler times of the year. To wear it in the summer... well heat stroke comes to mind.

Hope this helps some.

~J


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Fitz
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posted 09-04-2001 10:08 PM     Profile for Fitz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
here are the details i left out.
1450-55
trying to accomplish a archer guard of king charles VII of france
france
sorry i left it out before
thanks Fitz

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Dave Key
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posted 09-07-2001 10:26 AM     Profile for Dave Key   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I would suspect, and I don't know for France, that the Archer Guard were a relatively small elite bodyguard, equivilant to the English Kings Yeomen Archers.

If so then you are probably not going to need to know what weight of wool is needed for the doublet as it will almost certainly be issued (livery) and silk, as would the gown.

As to the cloth for the hose, Jersey isn't a typical cloth. Kersey (in England) is but that isn't the same thing. Kersey: (6d-2s/yd). A fairly heavy medium grade 'national' cloth with twill weave. However other worsteds (again twill) are mentioned frequently, but essentially for the type of person you are intending to portray good quality cloth is the key.

Phillip de Comynes talks about the archers so there may be some descriptions there. Similarly with a bit of digging there ought to be accounts ... I'll try and find the English equivilants.

Cheers
Dave


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Fitz
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posted 09-07-2001 10:44 PM     Profile for Fitz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
the reason i mentioned the wool jersey cloth was that it was mentioned under the ARMET clothing disscusion on this board.
the scottish archer guard of the king of france will be an expensive portrayal and it is something i will have to work up to so i should have said to have been more accurate
that i will have to start with a mounted archer portrayal and as i accumulate the the necessary pieces i can move up to the portrayal that i originally stated.please forgive the misstatement on my part.

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