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you have me at a disadvantage in that I have the "Book of the Hunt" but I do not possess Dress Accessories or Shoes and Pattens. Something I keep trying to remedy.

Perhaps there are some cordwainers on this forum who can help out. Now bumping message to the top.

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Cheers,
FS

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[ 06-11-2001: Message edited by: Rhys ]

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If you can post the image on this page, I will cross reference with the shoes and pattens info. I have all the MoL books.

The Livre de la Chasse I have is also the one from the BN in France. I don't have any plates from the Pierpont MS, so maybe you can help us out.

Hopefully this will work!
(which it does) It is the first image on the left.

[ 06-13-2001: Message edited by: Rhys ]

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The hat is certainly strange. I've looked at a lot of pictures from that time period, and I can't think of another example similar to this. The Duc de Berry's fur hat is the closest thing I can think of, structurally (see the Tres Riches Heures, January calendar page). I'll keep looking and let you know if I see anything. It certainly is not a common type of hat, though.

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[ 06-19-2001: Message edited by: Ned ]

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Rather than go to our website and copy Jeff's interpretation of a medieval boot, why don't you start with Marc Carlson's pattern and look at period paintings of thigh high boots as a reference?

As a rule, it's always better to go to an original source for info than to copy a copy.

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I make the boots two ways, with buckles and a hook and eye on the instep, or with no closure. The latter relies on spur straps to keep the foldover down.

The reason I offer them both ways is this:

Rene's "Livre de Tournois" and the "Book of Love" shows the fold over held down only by the spur straps. I have only found scant evidence (mostly in allegorical Flemish paintings) of boots with buckles, so this does not seem typical, though it was probably done. I also think buckles were probably used late in the 15th century because you see them and hook closures in Gaston Phoebus' hunting illos from earlier in the 15th century, only slightly earlier than my replicas are geared for.

I figure that most wearers of my boots will not wear spurs (though if they're wearing riding boots at all, they SHOULD be wearing spurs with them), and the fold over is mighty inconvenient without any closure at all. This gives wearers the option of not having to purchase replica spurs, though if you're buying riding boots you should pop for the spurs too...

So....

There is very strong evidence for the foldover and reasonable evidence, though less conclusive, for closures on foldovers.

I hope that clears things up a bit.

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I said what I said because our policy is always to direct modern artisans to consult a primary source instead of a modern reconstruction. Although I appreciate your intentions, it would be hypocritical for us to say "In most cases look at an original...unless you wanted to use our stuff as a source."

I think Jeff's boots look like the ones in Rene' and that they rock the free world, but then again I'm biased.

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