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Phillipe de Pamiers
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posted 05-01-2001 10:47 AM     Profile for Phillipe de Pamiers   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I am making efforts to embellish my 14th century garb, primarily 1360-80.

I have found illuminations showing patterns in fabric, and looked at some surviving brocades. I have also found documentation for the use of painting on fabric and embroidery. In addition Newton mentions the use of silk ribbon sewn onto garments to mimic the stripes of Flemish fabrics. However, I do not remember coming across a discussion of applique. I do not think it is a far reach to take the silk ribbon to the next step.

I would like to know if anyone has found evidence of applique. Was the fabric attached with some form of glue and what was the stitching technique used to hold down the edges?

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Phillipe de Pamiers


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Anne-Marie
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posted 05-02-2001 01:36 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
hello Phillipe from Anne-Marie

much depends on the class youre attempting to portray, of course, but I have no evidence of middle class or even upper middle class people embellishing their clothing in the 14th or 15th centuries.

One of the fun things about these two centuries is that the "embellishment" is the fabric itself. Upper class folks would use rich velvets and brocades where the pattern was woven in. MIddle class posers (like I'm attempting to portray ) would rely on good quality wool dyed with expensive rich dyes.

The drape and sheen of the fabric as well as the saturated rich color would cry out your wealth and status.

Eclisastical and coronation garments would be heavily embroidered and decorated, but those were ceremonial robes and not worn by regular folks, and certainly not every day!

at least this is what my reading suggests, as well as a bit of looking at the many illustrations of the time.

I know applique is VERY popular in the SCA here (especially among the generic norse and celtic types), but alas, I have no evidence that it was used for regular folks clothing in our period, and for me, I stick pretty close to the known and documentable element, and avoid taking those "next steps"...down that path lies madness! (your mileage of course may vary....)

hope this helps some,

--Anne-Marie

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Nikki
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posted 05-02-2001 02:12 AM     Profile for Nikki   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
From _The V&A Museum's Textile Collection: Embroidery in Britain from 1200 to 1750_, I take the following excerpts...intrepret them as you will...

Silk textiles with repeating patterns, woven on the drawloom, were extensively used in Britain [in the MA], but these were not home-produced, but imported from Italy, Spain, Byzantium, or the Islamic world. Pictoral wall-hangings, woven by the tapestry technique, were imported in the later middle ages from France and Flanders....

..only two classes of patterened textiles are certainly known, from surviving examples, to have been produced in England during the middle ages. One of these comprised narrow bands or ribbons, from a few millimeters up to about three inches wide, woven with silk and gold thread in tablet-looms....the second class of English patterned textiles, far more important both artistically and economically, were the embroideries...

...from the middle of the 14th century onwards, although the English workshops continued to be extremely active, making large quantities of excellent embroidery, they were no longer called upon to produce work of such luxurious quality as in the preceding period. Economic resources were now diverted from luxury goods into military expenditure; the wages of skilled workers rose; and at the same time the embroidery workshops had to meet increasing competition from imports of Italian patterned silks. The responded by simplifying techniques: underside couching, for example, was replaced by surface couching. Designs were also simplified....Large pieces, such as copes and altar frontals, were no longer embroidered throughout to specially commissioned designs. Instead, they were decorated by embroidering standardized motifs on linen, which were then cut out around their outlines, and applied to a silk or velvet background....

...the surviving specimens of this embroidery were almost all...made for church use.....we know from documentary evidence that some of the richest of all medieval embroideries were produced for court costumes, or for furnishing items, such as bed-hangings. Virtually none of this work survives, since it either went out of fashion and was broken up, or it remained in constant use and was worn out; the church embroidery has survived better, since it was less subject to fasion, and less continuously used.

there are 5 notes, two of which may be interesting:
4. the standard work on English embroidery of the 12th to 14th century is Mrs. A.G.I. Christie, English Medieval Embroidery, 1938. D. King, Opus Anglicanum, 1963, is an exhibition catalogue describing many English embroideries of the 11th to 16th century.
5. A surviving English secular embroidery of the 14th century, in the Museé de Cluny, Paris, is described by D. King, op. cit, item 76.


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