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Nikki
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posted 02-09-2001 11:06 AM     Profile for Nikki   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm looking for either or both of:

A) tablet woven cording, suitable for lacing garments, etc....

B) linen thread/yarn of suitable thickness/strength to be made into said tablet-woven cording. There's a place in Maine, Halcyon Yarns, whose web page seems to indicate that they carry a variety of linen yarns, but I don't know how to interpret the yarn sizes, and I'm not exactly sure what would be best to use for this. And I haven't yet had a chance to drive up to Bath and check out their store in person.

Any ideas?


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AnnaRidley
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posted 02-09-2001 05:57 PM     Profile for AnnaRidley   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I don't know anyone that sells tablet weaving suitable for cording.

When looking at weaving yarn the sizes are given in a format like 16/2. The first number gives the weight of the plys and the second number gives the number of plys. The bigger the first number, the finer the thread. When I weave with linen the thickest I use is 16/2. Recently I've been using 36/2 which gives me about the same thickness as buttonhole twist silk. In general I'd recommend anything in that range. You denfinately want something with multiple plys. The nice thing about the 36/2 that I've been using lately is that it comes in smallish spools, I got it from a lace making friend. I've had the 16/2 for several years and am only about 1/2 though the spool I've used the most.

Halcyon is a good place, trusted weaving supply. Another is Webs in Northampton, MA. ( www.yarn.com )


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hauptfrau
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posted 02-09-2001 05:57 PM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Check out the thread on "Grene Dorge" where Anna kindly gives directions for making a fingerloop braid that works up flat: http://www.wolfeargent.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000079.html

Is there a reason you want linen for making up? I believe most of the extant examples are made of silk. Not that I believe linen or wool was never used, I just think silk was pretty common, and it's readily available as embroidery thread.

Gwen


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Jeff Johnson
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posted 02-10-2001 08:24 PM     Profile for Jeff Johnson   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey Nikki,

There's a suttler who was at MTT last year doing tablet weaving & I talked her about doing custom work. What I was after was tablet woven round linen for points. She'd never done round before, but during the event, she made some up. I think Eric bought it. Anyway, she said she was willing to do more custom work, make more round with the material she had in-stock, or weave up whatever yarn people sent her. The e-mail & address are here:
http://www.radix.net/~herveus/


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Anne-Marie
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posted 02-11-2001 03:03 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
hey all from AM
have you guys seen the Soper Lane group? its a bunch of folks re-enacting the 15th century narrowwares makers on England. MOST COOL!!!!!!! their site is a treasure trove of info on all kinds of narrow wares stuff.
http://www.et-tu.com/soper-lane/

if they lived less than thousands of miles away, I'd join up in a heartbeat!!

--AM


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Nikki
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posted 02-11-2001 12:06 PM     Profile for Nikki   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hauptfrau:

Is there a reason you want linen for making up? I believe most of the extant examples are made of silk. Not that I believe linen or wool was never used, I just think silk was pretty common, and it's readily available as embroidery thread.

Yes, there is. I am making the assumption that there were equivalent items made of linen which just happen not to survive, since linen seems not to have survived hardly at all. I am also assuming that silk was more expensive than linen, and that my lower-class person would have been more likely to have linen cording (or hemp or such) to thread up clothes than silk cording....

If anyone has seen any documentation of use of silks by lower classes, please, I'd love to know. I just thought it would be a safer bet to stick with linen.


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Jamie & Christine
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posted 02-12-2001 05:46 PM     Profile for Jamie & Christine   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Folks,
Another cool source for yarns and lots of other great stuff you may be interested in is
www.earthguild.com
Check them out.
Jamie

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