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hauptfrau
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posted 09-27-2000 03:32 AM
I haven't seen anything in paintings except "white", which ranges from tan to brilliant white. Any of the real stuff I've seen and handled in museums is what I'd call "linen white", which is in the same range. "Natural" linen would be less processed than white linen. Because the fibres are not processed as much, the cloth isn't as soft as whiter fabric. "Natural" linen is scratchier. Maybe OK for tents and packs, but not something I'd want to swath my bum in.  The cool thing about linen is that it bleaches fairly easily. Just washing and wearing it a lot will tend to soften and whiten it, and so will leaving it out in the sun. However, without modern chlorine bleaches, linen will never be as incandescently white as cotton. Some reenactors will add a jar of powdered tea to their linen wash to soften the color and take the edge off a modern bleach job. Someone once told me that the Italians used unbleached ("natural") linen for smallclothes when they were in mourning, but I've been unable to verify that statement. Gwen
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Nikki
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posted 09-27-2000 10:28 PM
I've misplaced my notebook, but I think the 16-22 Coppergate book said that linen was bleached by boiling it in a solution of wood ash, then rinsing it and pegging it flat and leaving it in the sun til it bleached white. IIRC, there was a woodcut illustration in the book with linens staked out all over a hill, but I could be delusional, and I am really not certain that it was in 16-22 Coppergate at all.After bleaching, the linen was wetted and beaten with a club to flatten the yarns and to smooth the surface of the fabric. Some glassy stones were found at York from the 10th-13th centuries which were probably used to smooth the linen by rubbing the heavy stones on the cloth. I really highly recommend the Archaeology of York vol 17 "Small Finds" series, which has like 15 fascicules (separately bound sub-volumes). _Textile Production at 16-22 Coppergate_ was chock-full of goodies pertaining to cloth and clothing production, altho it doesn't much about fashions or articles of clothing.
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hauptfrau
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posted 10-17-2000 01:09 AM
the poseur black skimpy breeches with ties at the sides! I don't have a copy of all of the Schilling Chronicles, so I can't say I've seen them in there. I know I've seen these in very very late 15th / early 16th C. stuff, usually German. I've never seen them on anything but a German, and as Jamie says, Durer made them famous.... does anyone know why every re-enactor I know calls them braies as every C15th English ref I've ever seen says Breeches? Like "smock", I believe "braies" is the French term and "breeches" is the English. At least this is what my costume history books say. The books printed in the UK use 'breeches' throughout, the ones printed in the US use "braies", as I assume they use the french term. If we are Burgundians, the assumption is we would be using the French term. I could be completely wrong about this, so Dave, if you have some more info, I'd love to see it. Gwen
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