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Gwen
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Member # 126

posted 06-12-2002 05:15 PM

Some photos from the Scola St. George Sword Symposium June 7-9, 2002. These photos are of the Pas d’arms held Saturday. Jeff Hedgecock fighting Brian Price with rebated steel:

Before the bout- Jeff on the left, Brian on the right-

Using Fiore during the bout-

Jeff lands a blow-

Both Jeff and Brian blocking blows with the left hand while landing blows with the sword-

Enjoy!

Gwen

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Anne-Marie
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posted 06-13-2002 10:22 AM

hubba hubba!

did Jeff find that his period soled turnshoes did ok on the concrete? I notice Brians got some sort of modern traction sole on his shoes.

--AM

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"Let Good Come of It"

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Androu
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posted 06-13-2002 11:36 AM

Really nice pictures, nice harnesses too. I would be interested to know what rules were used for this event such as target areas, force levels, weapons, etc. Also, though I realize that these few shots perhaps aren't representative of all the bouts, where is the half-swording and grappling? I often see modern practitioners bouting in harness doing unarmoured techniques such as striking with the edge of the sword, which is virtually useless. If the intent is to simulate unarmoured combat, using armour only for the protection offered, that kind of makes sense, but it still doesn't look right to me. Nice pictures though and I bet the fighting was a blast!

-Matt Anderson

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Fire Stryker
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posted 06-13-2002 01:12 PM

Looks like on the last Pic, Brian has Jeff's wrist (a Fiore grappling fav). It is hard to be certain because the image is a little blurry.

I wonder if they would really allow any serious grappling, armoured or no, due to the fact that if you "Do Fiore right" one of the combatants that is grappled ends up on the ground or on his head. No mats and concrete...not a good throwing combo.

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Androu
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posted 06-13-2002 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Fire Stryker:
Looks like on the last Pic, Brian has Jeff's wrist (a Fiore grappling fav). It is hard to be certain because the image is a little blurry.
I wonder if they would really allow any serious grappling, armoured or no, due to the fact that if you "Do Fiore right" one of the combatants that is grappled ends up on the ground or on his head. No mats and concrete...not a good throwing combo.

I think you're right about the last picture, but as you said, it's hard to tell. And I agree completely about the hazards of grappling, I have found it difficult to do in training or free play without risking injury. You really have to trust your partner and excercise a lot of control.

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David Parish-Whittaker
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posted 06-14-2002 05:03 PM

They were doing some halfswording as well- didn't see any grappling beyond a quick palm or two (hey, they were fighting on concrete).

Jeff is probably the one to discuss his technique, but they seemed to be doing the unarmored Fiori technique. The bout conditions were to "x" number of good blows, thrown blows, or to mutual satisfaction.

For a simulation of a pas, it seems reasonable to me to be to use the unarmored techniques while wearing armor. Back in the historical pas, deaths were accidents (although, admittedly, hardly unheard of). If they had been using the anti-armor techniques that the manuals talk about...well, Gwen wouldn't be posting those photos (I hope! "Here's Jeff's sword entering Brian's cerebellum" Ugh)

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-David Parish-Whittaker
Solana Beach, CA
www.thegoliards.com

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