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Anne-Marie
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posted 06-22-2000 02:44 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
hey all from Anne-Marie

Youre at an event. some nice lady comes up to you and sayd 'wow! youguys look great! how can I find out more about your period? I might want to do that!"

what books do you give her? Remember, she's not asking for a complete College history class. She'll looking for general info. And you're looking for information sources that are sexy, interesting and very accessible. Preferrably with big color pictures .

_The Medieval Soldier_ by Embleton et al, of course, but what if she wants real history, not just pretty pictures?

For general medieval life, I ahve them read -Life and Times of Margery Kemp_, and _Louis XI_. Chatty, easy to read.

what else?

--AM


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Glen K
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posted 06-22-2000 10:13 AM     Profile for Glen K   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
If they're interested specifically in arms and armour, I always point everyone to "Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight" by David Edge and Miles Paddock, which I consider the best single-volume survey of the topic. There is LOTS of info and lots of pictures in the book.

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Jamie & Christine
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posted 06-22-2000 11:54 AM     Profile for Jamie & Christine   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
For a good general background of my group's period I suggest EUROPE 1492-Portrait of a Continent Five Hundred Years Ago, by Franco Cardini and THE WORLD OF DURER by Francis Russel from the Time-Life Library of Art.

Jamie


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hauptfrau
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posted 11-20-2000 02:29 AM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm ressurecting this ancient thread because this is the best place to put this info.

Crispin has asked for resources for learning more about the 15th C.. Here are some of my favorites:
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“The Wars of the Roses: From Richard II to the fall of Richard III at Bosworth Field- seen through the eyes of their contemporaries”

Edited by Elizabeth Hallam

1988, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, NY

ISBN 1-55584-240-2

I think this is one of the “must have” books for the beginning 15th C. reenactor. Much like “The Paston letters” this book covers not only the facts at hand but delves into corollary information that gives the facts relevance. For instance Part V covers the reign of Edward IV and includes such expanded topics as

Warfare and the people
Elizabeth Woodville
Caxton
The Catholic Monarchs
Textiles and Tailoring
Warwick the kingmaker
and
Europe’s first economic community

among others.

The book relies heavily on contemporary and first person accounts, paintings, and drawings to bring the period to life. At 2-4 pages long, each topics is fairly covered without dragging out unnecessarily.

312 pages, slightly oversized format

Glossary, index, full bibliography

Available from any online used bookseller for $18-$40

Gwen’s rating-*****

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“A History of Women in the West- Silences of the Middle Ages”

Georges Duby & Michelle Perrot, General Editors
Christiane Klapisch-Zuber - Editor

1992, Harvard University Press

ISBN0-674-40368-1
From the book- “Drawing on myriad sources - from the faint traces left by the rocking cradle at the site of an early medieval home to an antique illustration of Eve’s fall from grace- this second volume in the celebrated series offers new perspectives on women of the past. 12 renowned historians from many countries examine the image of women in the masculine mind, their social condition, and their daily experience from the demise of the Roman empire to the genesis of the Italian Renaissance”.

This is a very scholarly book that will take some wading through, but I feel the information it holds is well worth the time. I found information on the Church’s view of women and resulting societal pressures to be a real eye-opener.

575 pgs, high quality softcover.

Copious footnotes, index, full bibliography

About $17

Gwen’s rating - ****

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“Memoirs of a Medieval Woman- the life and times of Margery Kempe”

Louise Collis

1983, harper & Row

ISBN 0-06-090992-7

The biography of the extraordinary Margery Kempe. Born in about 1373 in King’s Lynn, Margery deserted her husband and 14 children to make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem to expiate a “secret sin” in her early life. Along the way she meets many famous prelates and dignitaries, gets into all sorts of scrapes and survives a feverish voyage in the stinking galleys of a Venetian boat.

Whether you think Margery a mystic or a lunatic, her autobiography provides a colorful and detailed picture of everyday medieval life in England and the Mediterranean rim.

270 pages, paperback

index

Under $15

Gwen’s rating - ****

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Women in the Middle Ages”

Frances and Joseph Gies

1978, Harper & Row

ISBN -0-06-464037-X

Like their other books, the Gies take scholarly material and edit and digest it for the general public. Although sometimes short on background or meaty content, this book is a fine introduction to the subject that hits virtually all of the important points. A wonderful source for basic knowledge with no glaring errors to overlook.

264 pages, conventional paperback

Footnotes, index, full bibliography

under $10

Gwen’s Rating- *****

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Hope these help!

Gwen




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GreyK
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posted 01-16-2001 11:25 PM     Profile for GreyK   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Gwen, which of the above books was the one you mentioned that read more like a novel than like a history book? I'm interested in getting a book to learn the various people but without putting me to sleep.
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hauptfrau
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posted 01-17-2001 12:23 AM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The book you're thinking of is "Sunne in Splendor" by Sharon K. Penman. By all means buy it and read it as it's great!

“The Wars of the Roses: From Richard II to the fall of Richard III at Bosworth Field- seen through the eyes of their contemporaries” Edited by Elizabeth Hallam is also a fantastic book as it covers a lot of ground in very manageable bites. It's also written in a very friendly way. I've noticed that some of the history books are enough to choke on, but definitely not this one!

Gwen


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Fire Stryker
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posted 01-17-2001 05:21 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
"The Sunne in Splendour" is a wonderful book. Just a cautionary note. It is a historical novel and one must be ever cautious of relying on it as pure historical fact, though Sharon Kay Penman does a wonderful job of bringing the personalities of the WoRs to life and you get an idea of the complicated interactions of the great lords. Fortunately she also tells you where she deviated from fact to further the plot of the story.

This is one of my all time favorite books and I recommend it highly. 5 Stars.


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Gordon Clark
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posted 02-01-2003 04:09 PM     Profile for Gordon Clark     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Bringing back this thread again...

What other historical fiction do you guys like (both for interest as fiction and for historical detail/accuracy)
Someone elsewhere recomended Dorothy Dunnett's Niccolo Rising (series). If you have read any of those - what is your opinion on the historical details?

Others?

Thanks.

Gordon


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Alan F
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posted 02-01-2003 08:04 PM     Profile for Alan F   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Gordon, for outstanding fiction, try Daniel Hall's excellent Kemp: The Road to Crecy and its sequel Kemp: Passage at Arms. Both are of course 14th Century, but give an excellent insight into the daily lives of both Churls and Archers. The second book gives an amazing insight of what it was to be in England when the Plague arrived - brilliant and gripping stuff! The author, Daniel Hall, started writing whilst studying Medieval History at University, and I get the feeling that he may be a re-enactor as well!
Bernard Cornwell's latest series, the Grail Series is OK, but the second book has too many anachronsims in it - the Scots in Plaids (in 1347?), etc. Which is odd, when you consider how well-researched his books usually are.

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tim seasholtz
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posted 02-02-2003 09:46 AM     Profile for tim seasholtz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I bought the Road To Crecy while in the UK and I really liked it. I didn't know there was a sequel. Thanks!!
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Anne-Marie
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posted 02-08-2003 10:21 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
for fun easy reads I highly recommend Memoires of a Medieal Woman, Life and Times of Margery Kempe.

She really was a wacko and her highjinks in the name of Faith are pretty frickin' hilarious


Think brother juniper meets the crazy cat lady down the street....

--Anne-Marie

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"Let Good Come of It"


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Martin
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