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Topic: Reproduction medieval table linens are here!
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Gwen
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posted 06-27-2005 11:36 AM
As some of you know, I've been working on having reproduction tablecloths and towels woven, and it has been a project that has had many false starts and setbacks. I can hardly believe I'm typing this, but after nearly 3 years, the 14th C. table linens have arrived! "Gryphon" Tablecloth: "Zigzag" Napkin/towel SIZE: The tablecloth is 60" wide X 120" (10 feet) long (approx) and has a hand knotted fringe end. It was woven 60" wide, the long edges are a discrete selvage. In the photo it is shown on the table folded in half longwise so as to best display the pattern. The napkin/towel is 15" X 80" (approx). Due to the limitations of the equipment used and cost concerns, these are woven wide, cut to width and the long edges hemmed with a machine topstitch. The machine hemming can be removed easily and replaced with a hand hem for reenactment purposes. Each piece has a care tag sew on which is required by import law and cannot be removed except by the end user, so you'll probably want to remove that as well.
DESIGN: Designs in both have been taken directly from existing textile fragments, although I have rearranged some elements so they are not exact copies. The blue design on the tablecloth is confined to the ends. The towel has wide bands on the ends and narrow bands spaced throughout the body. These are being custom woven specifically for me, and I have an exclusivity agreement with the mill to produce these only for me. PATTERN PROVENANCE: Tablecloth- Gryphon Antichi Tessuti Umbri Tovaglie "da mensa" dalla collezione Morosini Catalogo a cura di Amleto Morosini Page 29 #2- Tovaglia, XV secolo Provenienza: Valle Castoriana-Umbria Produzione: Umbria-marche cm 160 x 48.5 (59" x 19" approx) Design elements used: zigzag/bells shadow zigzag eagles and tree of life band -------------- Tablecloth- Gryphon Rassengna Marchigiana Indice Anno X Gennaio - Dicembre 1932 Il Tovagli Perugine Mariano Rocchi Page 44 Top right la Fontana e lo stemma perugino (The fountain of life and the coat of arms of Perugia) ----------------------- Towel- Sassetta zigzag Five centuries of Italian Textiles A selection from the Museo del Tessuto Prato Page 83 #17 Perugia, 15th C. cm. 57.5 X 35 Prato, Museo del Tessuto n. 75.1.448 Design elements used: Large horizontal band repeating a motif of the tree of life flanked by eagles. PERIOD: Both designs were taken from 14th-15th C. textile fragments. Although patterns were literally used for centuries, my gut feeling is these patterns are typical of the trend in patterns popular from the 14th.- mid 15th C.
FIBRE: There are as close to the medieval originals as we could make them: 100% flax linen warp, 100% cotton weft, blue is indigo dyed, just like the originals. The ivory coloured body has the diamond pattern found on historical examples. PRICE: Tablecloth: US$64.95/GB£35 Towel: US$14.95/GB£8 These prices are correct! We wanted these to be affordable enough for just about everyone, and part of the delay was finding a manufacturer who could do the linen warp at a price that translated well for the end buyer. I'm very pleased to offer these at what I feel is an exceptionally affordable price. ORDERING: The "Gryphon" tablecloths and "Zigzag" towels won't be available through the website until after our Pennsic sales event in August. You can order the "Gryphon" tablecloth and "Zigzag" towel right now through a disguised portal on our website. In the "Specials" section, scroll down to find "Perugia 3" and "Perugia 4". "Perugia 3" is the "Gryphon" tablecloth, and "Perugia 4" is the "Zigzag" towel. Find the Specials section here: http://www.historicenterprises.com/cart.php?m=product_list&c=45 . Because I have a huge amount of money tied up in these, I need to move some as soon as possible. Here's what someone on the list had to say about the pieces they received: "...the table cloth and towels [are] here. They are GORGEOUS! The photos do not do them justice. When will the rest be in? I think I need one of everything! And I am not even playing right now! Good job!" Please note: I was able to bring in only a very limited number of pieces. When these are sold out there won't be any more available until the end of August. Please place your order as soon as possible because when these are gone, they're gone! We will have 15th C. Linens available by the end of the year. As always, thanks for your continued support and interest in our items! Gwen Historic Enterprises
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Gwen
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posted 06-28-2005 01:26 AM
Yup, 3 years...that seems like 6! There were points in the process where I was absolutely certain that I'd never see these (like when I paid $500 for samples that never materialized- one of the afore-mentioned setback), so I can hardly believe I have a box full of pieces finished, here and ready to go.My customer is right- the photos don't do them justice, they are GORGEOUS if I do say so myself! Here's a photo of the 15th C. pattern being used at the Castle de Haar joust event. Photo courtesy of Joram van Essen, used with permission I just hope we have an event someday so I can use my sets. Things are dead, dead, dead in CA since we disbanded the Red Co. Gwen
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Gwen
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posted 06-29-2005 11:17 AM
Honest answer, I don't know. I think a deal breaker would be if there were horses. At this point Jeff is pretty much uninterested in doing anything that doesn't involve horses, so if there was a horse for him to ride the chances would be better. Right now he's completely focused on getting something going here that will allow him to use our horses again. Me, I'm almost completely uninterested in the "dressing up" part anymore, so I'm not sure what inducement it would take to get me to an event in kit.I think one of the big parts of Archeon or any of Joram's events is that it's actually -in- the place. I was talking to Arne on Monday about his joust event in a little village in Friesland the prior weekend and they were able to put up the "visiting knights" in a medieval gatehouse. OK, it was only a gatehouse, but [American that I am] I'd/we'd like to do stuff like that before I/we die. Neither of us is 20 any more and Jeff can only reasonably expect to do this stuff for a couple more years. With a limited amount of resources and time available to us, our efforts have been focused on out of country events where we can doing something medieval in a real medieval setting. I think being in York at Barley Hall 2 years ago was a bit of a revelation for us as far as doing medieval in a medieval place. Standing in front of York Minster in my kit at 7 in the morning when the streets are deserted, looking up at the minster I knew -exactly- what it felt like to be in the same place 500 years ago. I could almost feel the spirits of all the people who've lived in the place; it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, it was almost creepy. It wasn't anything I anticipated, but now that it's happened, recapturing moments like that are a goal and something I wouldn't ever expect to get out of an event anywhere else but in Europe. Now if time and money weren't an issue, and we didn't have a business to run, we'd make the circuit of any and all events just because we could. However, life intervenes and we have to choose. C'est la vie as they say. Maybe more of an answer than you were looking for, but I was trying to be honest, and a simple "I don't know" would have sounded flip, evasive and perhaps elitist. Gwen
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Gwen
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posted 07-20-2005 01:07 AM
Hi Charles-Gryphon and the zigzag towel/napkin are great for 14th C. (1300's) and early-mid 15th C. (1400's) use. I chose the gryphon spcifically because the motif shows up time after time in both artwork and fragments, which makes me think it was popular during that period and into the early mid 15th C. After about 1450 the designs become bigger and bolder, which is why we're calling the Chained Cats motif our "15th C." design. The checkerboard and a motif that could be animals or gryphons can be seen in the Lombard manuscript The Story of Lancelot" dated 1370 (Biblioteque nationale, Paris, MS. fr. 343, 31v). Likewise, a design which is definately winged creatures facing one another across a spray may be seen in Apollonio di Giovanni's Aneid dated 1450 (Biblioteca Riccardiana, Florence, MS.492.75r) so we have a documented 80+ year spread for this design. The the tree of life flanked by eagles design on the towel/napkin is taken from an extant textile and is virtually identical to the design of the towel thrown over the shoulder of St. Anne's companions in Sasetta's "Birth of the Virgin", 1435 Museo di Arte sacra, Asciano, Tuscany)
You're not the first one who thinks they'd look spectacular in your dining room! I'm actually thinking of cutting one in half and making tab curtains out of it..... Gwen
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Bertus
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posted 07-20-2005 06:51 PM
Hi Gwen,Could you tell me, ignorant guy on table linnens, why you chose to use 'cm 160 x 48.5' measurements for the table cloths? Today I saw Joram's 14th c. cotte that you send him. Great work . I was wondering though what your 'reference' is for the wooden buttons. Archaeological finds? Records? If so, which/where? And why did you use non-functional buttons on the sleeves? What is this based on? Thanks, Bertus -------------------- Bertus Brokamp
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Gwen
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posted 07-21-2005 02:13 AM
why you chose to use 'cm 160 x 48.5' measurements for the table cloths? 2 reasons:1)There are not enough whole tablecloths remaining to give me any sort of guide as to the average size of a medieval tablecloth. 2) Because I knew the effect and proportions I saw in period artwork, and that size gave me the proportions I was after on a "standard" size table in the US. The size fits perfectly on a modern 8 person dining table, and cut or folded in half longwise it is the perfect size on a 2"wide X 6" long table, which is the size a lot of reenactors use. what your 'reference' is for the wooden buttons. Archaeological finds? Records? If so, which/where? There is no historical basis for the wood buttons used on Joram's coat, I put them on because I thought they looked nice with that wool.
And why did you use non-functional buttons on the sleeves? What is this based on? Economics, it costs less to make the garment that way. If you're going for historical accuracy, the real question you should ask me is what is the basis for a 2-part sleeve. There is no basis for a 2 part sleeve that early, and my feeling is that to be really historical it should be a 1 piece sleeve, or one piece with a gusset on the seam behind the arm like the Herjolfsnes finds. To be really good it should also have self buttons made of the wool of the garment. The sleeve should fit tighter to the arm, and functioning buttons should run all the way to the elbow. This pattern has been around a while and given that I know more now than I did when I first drafted it, it's due for an update. Even when I draft a new pattern for the sleeve, I'll still have to use modern buttons, as hand making 60-odd buttons would send the price too high for an off the peg garment. On the other hand, the purchaser can always change the buttons that come on the garment, and I am always happy to provide cuts of the body material so the purchaser can make their own buttons if they so desire. Gwen [ 07-21-2005: Message edited by: Ginevra ]
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posted 07-21-2005 04:31 AM
Hmmm ok, I hadn't noticed the 2-part sleeve yesterday. The loose sleeve though, yes. I understand about the buttons and that you have to make a shortcut to keep the garment affordable.Thanks again  Bertus -------------------- Bertus Brokamp
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Diana Peterson
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posted 08-01-2005 12:23 PM
re: Tablecloths; We love you. re: York; If I had to move somewhere else, and had a choice of anyplace in the world, it'd be York. I had great fun visiting Barley Hall with my Boss/friend (Roger Shell) from Camlann Village; we ended up performing Kalenda Maya for their resident musician and had a great time swapping stories with him and their shoemaker. My memories of Yorkminster, though, center around sitting upon the steps with my husband Tim and debating with the visiting Bible Group that had begun proselytizing there. That probably has historical precedent but not for the 14th century! ---Diana---
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