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Fire Stryker
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posted 06-09-2005 08:10 AM
Sorry to hear about that. If I think of a question, I'll ping you in the next 5 days, but as you know, mine usually pertain to the continent. Cheers, Jenn -------------------- ad finem fidelis
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Gwen
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posted 06-09-2005 12:23 PM
I'll bite on this offer, as I was going to post this request today anyway-Looking for Olivier de la Marche Le parement et triumphes des dames Paris, 1554 Sorry to hear of abrupt change of course, and I hope everything works out for you. The material you've sent me over the years has been put to great use, and some of it is dog-eared with wear. Best of luck in your new direction. Gwen
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Gwen
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posted 06-09-2005 09:36 PM
I don't think so, as it's the content I'm after, not anything else. Actually, a translation would be ace, as it would save me a ton of time. I just cited that edition because I copied the footnote verbatim.Thanks! Gwen [ 06-09-2005: Message edited by: Ginevra ]
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Dave Key
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posted 06-10-2005 05:37 AM
Brent,Hope things work out for you ... can you get the "Letter and Papers illustrative of the English Wars in France during the region of Henry sixth" ... I found it on Gallica as you suggested (nice pointer ... never expected the French to actually put anything in English on one of their sites ;-) ) but it's page by page which s painful ... is there a copy aywhere as a whole document or have I misread/failed to read the French instructions ?? On th topic of the Rene of Anjou Tournment ... used Rene of ANjou as the author in the Gallica search and got the full Mss with illuminations .. excellent There ae times when the internet is wonderful Cheers Dave
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Brent E Hanner
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posted 06-10-2005 07:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dave Key: Brent,Hope things work out for you ... can you get the "Letter and Papers illustrative of the English Wars in France during the region of Henry sixth" ... I found it on Gallica as you suggested (nice pointer ... never expected the French to actually put anything in English on one of their sites ;-) ) but it's page by page which s painful ... is there a copy aywhere as a whole document or have I misread/failed to read the French instructions ??
I'll post instructions but if anyone really has problems let me know and I can make temporary copies on my webpage of books. Ok, you pull up the book and have it sitting on the first page. At the top there is a menu <i> Notice | Table des Matières | Pagination | Texte Seul | Plein Ecran | Télécharger | Reproduire </i> Choose Télécharger. There are French instructions but basically to get the whole book in a single PDF select OK and it will process the book and turn it into 1 PDF. You cand then download it by clicking on the ftp url it brings up. Brent
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Gwen
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posted 06-13-2005 02:45 AM
I hope there's still time to ask for this!Information on Bibliotheque Nationale, Paris, Ms. francais 616 (Hunting Book of Gaston Phoebus). The only info I have is that it was painted in the 15th C. Can you find out when, where and by/for whom? I'm most interested in a more specific dating, but all info regarding this mss. would be great. Bibliotheque de l'Arsenal, Paris, Ms. 5070 (Bocaccio's Decameron). This was supposed to have been painted 1430-40 by "The Master of Guillebert de Mets" and "The Master of Jean Mansel" for Phillip the Good of Burgundy. Can you confirm this info, or find out if any new information has been found regarding this manuscript? Mostly, the info I have on these mss is 20 or more years old and I'd like to know if any new information on them is available. Thanks! Gwen (BTW, thanks for the O de la M!)
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Brent E Hanner
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posted 06-14-2005 12:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ginevra: I hope there's still time to ask for this!Information on Bibliotheque Nationale, Paris, Ms. francais 616 (Hunting Book of Gaston Phoebus). The only info I have is that it was painted in the 15th C. Can you find out when, where and by/for whom? I'm most interested in a more specific dating, but all info regarding this mss. would be great.
Current thought seems to be it was done in Paris for John the Fearless c1407. Info from the latest reproduction. Also unchanged in a very recent book of highlights of the manuscript. quote:
Bibliotheque de l'Arsenal, Paris, Ms. 5070 (Bocaccio's Decameron). This was supposed to have been painted 1430-40 by "The Master of Guillebert de Mets" and "The Master of Jean Mansel" for Phillip the Good of Burgundy. Can you confirm this info, or find out if any new information has been found regarding this manuscript?
The only recent article I could find was from 1995 and it actually is mostly about other manuscripts thought to be done Master Guillebert of Metz and it compares them to the Arsenal Decameron. He gives no indication that the attribution had changed and was talking about other manuscripts c1430. Brent
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Dave Key
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posted 06-15-2005 06:40 PM
Now that's a request !I'm unaware of any nice neat and convenient ordinance ... you'll need to start piecing it together from various places ... I'd recommend starting with the Black Book of the Admiralty for Ordinances for War, then look at the documentation of the Wars of the English in France and how the Normandy garrisons were arranged,. Then start to look at the Paston Letters, Gregory's chronicle etc. to begin to get a feel for it all. What you are asking has been written about by modern historians (badly in my opinion) but it's not there as a period document nice and neatly wrapped up for us to use I'm afraid. Cheers Dave
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Dave Key
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posted 06-15-2005 06:50 PM
Seriously though, have a look atSociety at War, The Experience of ngland and France during the Hundred Years War, Ed. C.T. Allmand, Edinburgh, 1973 Also try and get hold of the York City Records as these list the recruitment and investigation into the behaviour of the City's archers on campaign in Scotland. Hope they help. Cheers Dave
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Brent E Hanner
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posted 06-15-2005 10:39 PM
I would have recomended the Laws of war of Henry V in De Studio Militari but the ones in the Black book should work, they are all inter-related. Something to keep in mind is that there are differences between English field armies for foriegn expeditions and the armies that fought in most of the battles of the Wars of the Roses. Brent And yes I'm done with my jaunt of helping people with research. [ 06-15-2005: Message edited by: Brent E Hanner ]
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Dave Key
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posted 06-16-2005 06:09 AM
Brent Do you have access to a copy of de studio Militari ... preferably an English translation ... ? Found an edition by Barnard which has "the essential parts" so I'll try an get a copy via ILL ... also the Bodleian has a doctoral thesis on it. Cheers Dave
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