Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile | register | search | faq | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
»  FireStryker Living History Forum   » Miscellaneous   » Off Topic   » Personas

UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Personas
Alan F
Member
Member # 386

posted 05-03-2005 04:55 AM     Profile for Alan F   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Could someone explain something to me? Why is it that a lot of personas that I see written up read like a mini-adventure book? Why don't people go for the approach of "I'm a churl, I was taken from my Lord's land to fight" which we do over here? I know this is common in the Society That Isn't Named, but was wondering why other re-enactors (mostly in the US) do it.

nb - This isn't a dig at anyone or any country, am just curious.


Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged
Jeff Johnson
Member
Member # 22

posted 05-03-2005 10:25 AM     Profile for Jeff Johnson   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
You've seen a lot of silly personnas, I take it? Some organizations engender some pretty far-out personal histories. I've met this person in a certain organization:

"I'm the illegitamate daughter of the French king and the scottish hand-maiden. I was captured and taken by pirates and learned to fight with the broadsword...". Pure fantasy drivel.

Most living history-style personnas are much more mundane: "My father was a yeoman, my mother spun and sewed, and I was raised in the home of my parent's and Uncle." I'm extensively traveled - All the way to London! Someday, I hope to inherit, or earn enough in my lord's service to buy a couple of farms of my own."

[ 05-03-2005: Message edited by: Jeff Johnson ]

--------------------

Geoffrey Bourrette
Man At Arms


Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
Charlotte
Member
Member # 620

posted 05-03-2005 10:29 AM     Profile for Charlotte   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I can't say that I've seen many "out-there" personae outside of certain re-creation groups. I've even noticed a movement lately within that certain group of the more auth-minded folks trying to spread a more sensible way of creating personae.

[ 05-03-2005: Message edited by: Charlotte ]


Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged
Alan F
Member
Member # 386

posted 05-03-2005 11:38 AM     Profile for Alan F   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Johnson:
You've seen a lot of silly personnas, I take it? Some organizations engender some pretty far-out personal histories. I've met this person in a certain organization:

"I'm the illegitamate daughter of the French king and the scottish hand-maiden. I was captured and taken by pirates and learned to fight with the broadsword...". Pure fantasy drivel.

Most living history-style personnas are much more mundane: "My father was a yeoman, my mother spun and sewed, and I was raised in the home of my parent's and Uncle." I'm extensively traveled - All the way to London! Someday, I hope to inherit, or earn enough in my lord's service to buy a couple of farms of my own."

[ 05-03-2005: Message edited by: Jeff Johnson ]


Jeff, those are the ones I'm talking about! What I can't for the life of me understand why is it that they feel the need for some so outlandish? Is representing a normal person not good enough?


Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged
Jeff Johnson
Member
Member # 22

posted 05-03-2005 12:39 PM     Profile for Jeff Johnson   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
My theory is that they do it because they don't get enough excitement or are too insecure in themselves in the real world.

Tiny person - big personna.

--------------------

Geoffrey Bourrette
Man At Arms


Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
Fire Stryker
Admin & Advocatus Diaboli
Member # 2

posted 05-03-2005 01:29 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I think Bob's got a pretty good one. More of us are trying to put similar ones together.He's a yorkist in Burgundian service. Came over with Margaret of York when she married Caz. His is a composite, but it serves the purpose of explaining who he is, who he serves, and why he would be over in Burgundy.

--------------------

ad finem fidelis


Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
Charlotte
Member
Member # 620

posted 05-03-2005 01:34 PM     Profile for Charlotte   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alan F:
Jeff, those are the ones I'm talking about! What I can't for the life of me understand why is it that they feel the need for some so outlandish? Is representing a normal person not good enough?

In certain groups, they *used to be* encouraged to explain all of the various activities that one may want to pursue. For example, somebody who wanted to fence and also was interested in bellydancing would be encouraged to come up with a story to justify why they would do both. The trend *now* is to just do what you want, either change persona, or just have one good persona and step outside of it for your other pursuits. It's getting better, really, though you'll still hear some doozies, usually involving pirates.

I still haven't seen any examples of this in LH.


Registered: Jun 2004  |  IP: Logged
LHF
Member
Member # 71

posted 05-05-2005 01:01 PM     Profile for LHF   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
I still haven't seen any examples of this in LH.

ever been to Florida?... bad dan! don't talk ill of other LH groups in the south FL area! even if they're from a town founded by russian circus midgets (sweetwater, FL in Dade county I'm not making this up!!!)

anyways this was a problem down here. when i first got interested in LH i checked out a couple of groups. i "was" Frank, just plain frank, an archer. my father was an archer and he also served under his lordship... yadayada. however, i was the only archer in a "lance" composed of 20 "men at arms" (aka space mercernary pirates) maybe i'm being too harsh, but it got old quick!

yes, i've found people that are these great personas and sometimes they're a bit insecure or are trying to compensate. but then again i've found that they're definition of LH is different from mine and i let them be.

daniel

--------------------

Db

D'rustynail


Registered: Nov 2000  |  IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)  

Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | Wolfe Argent Living History

Copyright © 2000-2009 Wolfe Argent Living History. All Rights reserved under International Copyright Conventions. No part of this website may be reproduced or utilized in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording, or by any information storage or retrieval system, without permission of the content providers. Individual rights remain with the owners of the posted material.

Powered by Infopop Corporation
Ultimate Bulletin Board 6.01