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tim seasholtz
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posted 12-13-2001 05:00 PM     Profile for tim seasholtz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I thought it was cool that John Howe of Co. of Saynte George fame is the conceptual consultant on the Lord of the Rings films. Good for him!
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Peter Lyon
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posted 12-14-2001 01:44 PM     Profile for Peter Lyon   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yes it is cool - I made some of his designs for the production, as I made most of the swords for it. We became good friends and still kept in touch. He's a real authentonazi, but in a good way, and some of it rubbed off on me!
John had a big influence on the whole feel of things, especially with his knowledge of period details and the many small items that travellers should be carrying etc.

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tim seasholtz
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posted 12-14-2001 04:04 PM     Profile for tim seasholtz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Wow! I am super impressed! The swords look outstanding. You are a lucky guy! I too am on the Nazi side of accuracy, but I cut my teeth on Tolkien. Way to go!!!
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chef de chambre
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posted 12-14-2001 06:57 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Peter,

I have a question for you -

I've seen photos of the various "hero" swords, which seem to be on a travelling exhibit in Canada at the moment. I especially liked the little detailings like the by-knife, tucked in the sheath on one.

Were those sheaths purely leather? Or were they a light wood lathe core, with leather over them?

I really, really liked the look of your work, and was impressed that a fantasy blade could look so functional - have that historical inspiration, and yet be a unique piece. It is a rare treat to see such a thing - most fantasy weapons are monstrosities that would be more likely to get the weilder killed, than be useful for their defence.

Keep up the good work.

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Bob R.


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Friedrich
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posted 12-21-2001 10:32 AM     Profile for Friedrich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I got the chance to see LOTR last night before the schools let out and the theaters mobbed. It's definately an adult movie and there are a few minor oddities. (I think Frodo is portrayed too young.) But the digital scenes are amazing and the consistency and dedication at this literal adaptation to film is to be applauded.

The equestrian scenes are well done and the combat scenes really encourage you to want to join in the mele.

If there is any one thing that I thought was a shortcoming was in the musical score/accompanyment. To me, it just wasn't that dramatic.

All in all, it's going to be a long wait to see the next part of the trilogy. (Holiday 2002 and 2003).

FvH

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Kent
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posted 12-21-2001 01:54 PM     Profile for Kent     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Howdy, Folks --
I read the Hobbit and the LOTR trilogy quite a while ago, then more recently I read it to my kids when they were pre-teens, and they also loved it. Now, 10 years later, we all got tickets for the opening day, and were overjoyed at how fully interpreted Middle Earth was -- the attention to detail is fantastic!
There were a few differences of opinion I had with how some of it was presented, but what the hey -- its fantasy, so you're supposed to suspend disbelief.
I felt like I was getting to visit a place I had been to years before, in my childhood -- I enjoyed an "aha!" of recognition at many points in the movie.
It always has been an archetypal story, and the film's production values are glorious -- It is gory and at times scary, so don't take the tots, but it is a "must see" for most everybody else. The world presented therein seems familiar, and almost viable. If you have even the slightest taste for fantasy, it'll be a treat for you! Too bad we have to wait a year in between.
--Kent

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Reinhard von Lowenhaupt
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posted 12-31-2001 11:43 AM     Profile for Reinhard von Lowenhaupt   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Took the family to LOTR last night, all I can say is WOW!

I was very impressed, and more amazingly my 5 year old son was entertained. He sat better through the 3 hours of LOTR than he did at Harry Potter!

The only disappointment I had was that the second film didn't start after a short intermission. This is definitely one to see...a few times!

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Per Mortem Vinco


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Friedrich
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posted 01-10-2002 10:01 AM     Profile for Friedrich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This link was pointed out on the AA forum. Time to see the movie again!
http://www.movie-mistakes.com/film.php?filmid=1778

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Gordon Clark
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posted 11-12-2002 12:24 PM     Profile for Gordon Clark     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey Bob,

I was browsing through old posts today and saw your question, but did not see an answer. You may already have found this, but here it is if you or anyone else is interested. A quote by John Howe from an interview at http://www.algonet.se/~enda/a_lotrinter.htm

"I'd like to add a word for the fellows who developed the scabbards, or rather, their actual construction. Most movie scabbards are lumpy and ungainly, as the must accommodate swords with blunt and thick edges. Actually, ninety-nine percent of re-enactment sword scabbards are like that - just awful. The [Weta] Workshop managed to make kevlar scabbards which were barely more than paper-thin, moulded right on the blades, then covered in leather and fitted with the chapes and belts. Take a close look at them on the DVD, they don't get the attention and praise they deserve.
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Gordon Clark
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posted 11-20-2002 03:04 PM     Profile for Gordon Clark     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
By the way - the extended edition DVD has quite a bit of footage on making the armor and weapons and also quite a bit of John Howe describing various stuff, including an interesting bit on how mail for the film was made.
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Destichado
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posted 11-21-2002 12:21 AM     Profile for Destichado     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
One wonders whether such scabbards could be made for we reenactors.
It sounds more durable than wooden lath construction...

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tim seasholtz
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posted 11-21-2002 07:39 PM     Profile for tim seasholtz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. That would be kinda cool.
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Gordon Clark
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posted 11-22-2002 09:41 AM     Profile for Gordon Clark     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Destichado:
One wonders whether such scabbards could be made for we reenactors.
It sounds more durable than wooden lath construction...

Phoenix Metal Creations makes such scabbards if I read the page correctly

Check out http://www.phoenixmetalcreations.com/accessories.html


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Alan F
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posted 11-26-2002 10:11 AM     Profile for Alan F   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Actually, the last sword I had came complete with an excellent scabbard, done in fine leather, with brass fittings..... Whenever I was dead at the end of a fight, looters queued up to get their hands on it!
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Gordon Clark
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posted 12-30-2002 05:43 PM     Profile for Gordon Clark     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
John Howe has a web site up at http://www.john-howe.com

The 'medieval' link has a nicely written (I think) blurb on Living History.


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