"i am a painter doing some research on Byzantine Clothing during the Christian era from 1st AD up to 1453 fall of Constantinople, I am trying to find images of the following

soldiers dress including all forms of battle dress, weapons and rank,

e.g. st. George, but not based on existing wall paintings and Greek icons of orthodox tradition, as clothing in most have very little relation to historic times.

regards

Dimitris Milionis"

I was going to tell him to check out the mosaics at Ravenna, as (to my knowledge) that's the largest source of Byzantine art. However, as I look at it again I realized that he's looking for 1400 years of information, and Ravenna is what, 900-1100 or something?

Anyone have any other suggestions for this guy?

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Originally posted by Ginevra:
I just received this post in this morning's mail:

"i am a painter doing some research on Byzantine Clothing during the Christian era from 1st AD up to 1453 fall of Constantinople, I am trying to find images of the following

soldiers dress including all forms of battle dress, weapons and rank,

e.g. st. George, but not based on existing wall paintings and Greek icons of orthodox tradition, as clothing in most have very little relation to historic times.

regards

Dimitris Milionis"

I was going to tell him to check out the mosaics at Ravenna, as (to my knowledge) that's the largest source of Byzantine art. However, as I look at it again I realized that he's looking for 1400 years of information, and Ravenna is what, 900-1100 or something?

Anyone have any other suggestions for this guy?

Gwen, who gets all sorts of weird requests......

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wow. he doesnt want much, does he?

seriously, for my little brain, the term "byzantine" refers to a very specific time and place, from 900ad (and the viking visitors) to 1100 or so. Charlemagne to Eleanore of Aquitaine and all that.

a quick search on the web shows lots of websites about "byzantine costume". No promises as to value, but they're out there.

I know there's some awesome books on 12th century art from the region (that used to be my period ), but after that I'm afraid I dont know of anything....

sorry, this doesnt help much, does it !

--AM

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and http://www.witcombe.sbc.edu/ARTHmedieval.html#Byzantine

Both are pretty extensively cover the period--just like the question did...

And Ravenna is from the 2nd Half of the 6th century, assuming you talk about the Church of San Vitale...Some stuff there is from even earlier... A woooonderful place.

Hope this helps,

Anna

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Originally posted by Anne-Marie:
wow. he doesnt want much, does he?

seriously, for my little brain, the term "byzantine" refers to a very specific time and place, from 900ad (and the viking visitors) to 1100 or so. Charlemagne to Eleanore of Aquitaine and all that.

--AM

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To: Anne-Marie from Annamaria

Seriously, Byzantium specifically refers to the culture of the Eastern Roman Empire from 395 AD (the division of the Roman Empire to East and West) until 1453, the fall of Constantinople. It had very little to do with Charlemagne, who ruled in the West, or Alienor of Aquitaine, who was ruler of most of France on her own right...Granted, there were some diplomatic relations (rather cool) between Charlemagne's court and the Byzantine Emperor's, but...It's NOT the same...

Sorry for the correction.

Anna

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Try refering him to the Osprey series of books. They're mostly aimed at modellers, wargamers etc, and contain lots of pictures of artefacts plus eight colour pages of plates reconstructing clothing and appearence.

They sell for about £10 ($16ish, I expect)and the publishers have a website listing the 500-odd titles they produce.

They do several covering the Byzantine empire at various periods, and are very accessible. They also contain a short bibliography if he wants to take it further.

Anna

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Originally posted by Anna Kovacs:

To: Anne-Marie from Annamaria

Seriously, Byzantium specifically refers to the culture of the Eastern Roman Empire from 395 AD (the division of the Roman Empire to East and West) until 1453, the fall of Constantinople. It had very little to do with Charlemagne, who ruled in the West, or Alienor of Aquitaine, who was ruler of most of France on her own right...Granted, there were some diplomatic relations (rather cool) between Charlemagne's court and the Byzantine Emperor's, but...It's NOT the same...

Sorry for the correction.

Anna

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hey annamaria

thanks for the clarification...like I said, my walnut sized brain has it in a much smaller timeframe, but that doesnt make it right

thanks for setting me straight!

--AM, who would go nuts having to wear all that drippy clothing with the pearls and stuff. the red shoes, however....those are cool!

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She has made a very serious study of Byzantine armour.

Brenna

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