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hauptfrau
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posted 05-08-2000 08:44 PM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I tried to post this in the Information Center but it wouldn't let me, so I didn't know where else to put it....

Anyway, about the movie, 4 words-

YOU MUST SEE IT!!!

I went because Hauptmann really wanted to see it, but I brought a book because I thought I'd last 20 minutes in the film and need something to read while I waited in the lobby.

Boy was I wrong!

I was rivited from the very opening scenes, and remained so throughout. Russell Crowe was brilliant (if mel Gibson-esque) as the general-turned-gladiator Maximus. Jauquin Pheonix was a smarmy and pathetic Emperor Commodus. Oliver Reed was wonderful in his last role.

A compelling,coherent story, well told. Lots of blood but not nearly as much and not nearly as graphic as a US production would have been, and not so much that I couldn't just cover my eyes until it was over. More character development than I could have hoped for. Wonderfully evocative, even if all the details were not perfect.

I give it an emphatic "two thumbs up!", and plan to see it again.

By the way, bring tissues for the end....

Gwen


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Woeg
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posted 05-09-2000 10:18 AM     Profile for Woeg   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
ARRGGHHHHH!!!!!

I want to see this movie so badly, but with moving and finding a babysitter, I feel like I'll never be able to go :P

Woeg

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hauptfrau
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posted 05-09-2000 04:41 PM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Make the time- I don't think it will be nearly the same on the small screen when it comes out on video.

Jeff was breathing hard all through the opening battle scenes and my heart was pounding. What an amazing film.

FYI- take it for itelf. Many reviewers are condemning it because they are comparing it to "Spartacus" and "Braveheart". I think this film deserves to stand on its own merit.

Gwen


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Fire Stryker
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posted 05-09-2000 07:49 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Put your faith in your own film critiques. Almost everything they like, I hate.

I thought Braveheart was a riot, but as far as accuracy, I left reality checked at the door. Take each film for itself.

One of our company members saw it with his wife and they both loved it. I am hearing this from other people as well. It definitely sounds like one of those "MUST SEE ON THE BIG SCREEN" movies.

Bob and I will be seeing it shortly.


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jsmart
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posted 05-09-2000 09:39 PM     Profile for jsmart   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
My students got back from watching the film and they told me that they were using oil lamps like we are making in class... so it must be right ! (i guess they were watching)
wish i could see the movie!

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Lissewege
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posted 05-10-2000 01:07 AM     Profile for Lissewege   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well I guess this means I'll have to take Dylan to see this. I liked Braveheart as well, but NOT as a historical film. I think it was very entertaining to watch.
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Glen K
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posted 05-12-2000 11:23 PM     Profile for Glen K   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I agree with everybody else... it is a great movie! As for comparing it to others, that's what those lousy film critics have to do to justify their inflated salaries. I tend to watch movies as Hauptfrau suggests, each on its own merit. Of course one could call it Braveheart-esque because of the familiarity of the plotline... along those lines one could call it Josey Wales-esque as well. Critics never "get" period movies, so ignore them and believe us.

The only glaring mistakes I saw were 1) some riders were using stirrups, 2) the tactics used by the legions were all wrong, 3) they obeyed the first rule of stage combat and ignored the first rule of armoured combat in having the stars fight w/o helmets so you could always see their pretty faces. These aren't really that bad; you want bad, wait until they release the Schawzenegger "Crusades" in a year or so.

Regardless, it's probably the best movie to come out for the last couple of years.


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posted 05-13-2000 08:59 AM     Profile for Woeg   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Gods.....is anyone else as sickened as I am by the thought of Arnold Schwarzenegger playing a crusader?

"KEEL DEE HAIRATEEKS!!"

Hehehehehehe.......


Woeg

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posted 05-14-2000 05:37 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
well, we just got back from seeing it (saw it with Kira and James). Wow!!!! ok, it was in a creaky old theater and the guy next to me had his pet rat running about on him (no kidding), but the movie was outstanding!!!!
the only thing that really bugged me was the way the boys clothes seemed fine, and the lesser female clothes seemed fine, but what was up with the lead female's clothing? That madonna look with the pseudo corset thing? egads and little fishies!!!!!

well, we all have our buttons, eh?

But I concur, an outstanding film with great cinematography, great staging, good acting, good special effects (who says a period piece cant use a gillion bucks worth of ILM? )

thanks for recommending it! we picked that film tonight based on your guyses recommendation....

--AM


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hauptfrau
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posted 05-14-2000 01:54 PM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yeah, the female lead's clothes got worse as the movie wore on- it was pretty OK in the beginning. I actually liked the sari silk chiton deals, and I REALLY liked the way the costumer had it "bound" on- I see that in statues all the time but have never seen it in a movie. All the hair (save that on the kid) was really good too.

The corset thing was pretty hideous though- down to the boned corset hook/eye deal closing it in the front. Oh well, I supose there's only so much you can do with "drapery".

Remember, it's a movie, not a research piece and they still have to sell it to the prols...

Gwen

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Mike T
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posted 05-20-2000 12:06 AM     Profile for Mike T   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi, All. First post, though I feel that I know you fairly well (Hi Gwen and Jeff). I haven't seen IT, but my movie sense says that it should be seen on the BIG SCREEN to get the full impact. The trailers bugged me though. What kind of Roman helmet is he (the new Mel) wearing? Who decided that a Roman 3rd Cent. equestrian parade helmet was appropriate for the Colliseum? As usual, HELLywood (to which a few of us owe a good living, heh-heh) has gone and half-a**ed it again. They have such a great opportunity. Were there Sassanian auxilaries during Commodus' reign? The guys in the conical nasals argue for it! Oh, well, look for a lot of guys in togas and tunicae at your next event. Mike T. PS Jeff and Gwen; we will get back to you soon with the figures. MJT
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Mike T
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posted 05-20-2000 12:13 AM     Profile for Mike T   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Oh, I forgot! How rude of me! Hi, Anne Marie. Forgive my quick reply, if you will. How many other folks out there have had the ill luck to have been introduced to me? Just curious to know who I will be chatting with. Mike T. PS What's up with the icons? As you might imagine, I'm not too computer savvy. Which should I use? Is the thumbs down for executions? What is the constipated looking one used for (and should I really ask)? MJT
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Jonathan
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posted 05-20-2000 09:01 AM     Profile for Jonathan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yup, that was a great flick! I don't have much to add that hasn't allready been said.

The only thing that was a bit troublesome was that I went to see it with my fiance', and she has this maniac disgust for anything at all that even remotely hints at any sort of violence towards children. So, those of you that have seen it know exactly how far into the movie we got before she was ready to leave. Fortunately for me I convinced her to stay and by and by she got over it and actually enjoyed the rest of the film.

The rest of the evening was filled with this sort of discussion:

Her: "I still don't understand why they had to do that"

Me: "It was a plot device, if they hadn't done something like that _______ wouldn't have been evil, he just would've been a powerhungry $#!*head."

Her: "I still don't think they had to do that"

Note: Name omitted for those who haven't seen it yet.

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posted 05-24-2000 12:36 AM     Profile for Godlefe   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thumbs UP, LIIIIVVE!!!!!
Yes we saw it this pm. and we agreed that it was rather violent, but one was not subjected to the full force of Holly-gore. It could have been much worse. Like Jeff I found the begining battle scene terrifying and electrifying all at once Phew!! Also I felt an old fear rise when I saw the Gladiators arrayed, before their first time in the arena, its a feeling I have not felt since I saw Sparticus as a small child with my brothers. Gave me nightmares...but give me the arena to a snake in the bed...EEEEK!!! No, actually I suggest everyone goes to see this, as it probably wont be kept around very long, since the fool critics poo poo'd it.
Hail Ceasar.

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Fire Stryker
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posted 05-29-2000 01:16 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Two enthusiastic thumbs WAY...WAY...UP!!!! This film was WAY COOL!!

You know when he rubs his hands in the dirt, he is about to get ROMAN on them.

If you haven't seen it...SEE IT!

'Nuff said.


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posted 06-01-2000 06:03 PM     Profile for Jamie & Christine   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey Folks,
I thought it was a highly entertaining flick , but I did have to bite my tongue to keep from yelling "Freedom!" at the end. Did anyone else notice the gothic armor on Maximus's horse in the 1st battle scene? Or the Sutton Hoo helm worn by a couple gladiators? I sometimes wish I hadn't read so many books.
Jamie

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posted 06-16-2000 02:05 PM     Profile for Buran   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
My review: Bought the soundtrack. Say no more.

Anyway, the move's got a grim, humorless tone which seems appropriate for SPQR.

The ILM flyover of the Eternal City was nice, but I would've loved a down and dirty street scene in Rome. A better film for that (for all its faults) is A Funny Thing Happened On the Way to the Forum.

I'm ready for a filmic retelling of the battle of Adrianople! Maybe with Arnold as a Goth and Stallone as a centurion! Yeah, right.

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hauptfrau
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posted 06-16-2000 04:28 PM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I sometimes wish I hadn't read so many books.

Yeah, me too. Even when I think I'm not paying attention I find myself thinking "THAT"S NOT RIGHT".

Thankfully, I don't know enough about Roman to interfere with enjoying this movie as pure entertainment. Well, everything but her corsets, and the kid's SCA tunic....

Gwen


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posted 06-16-2000 04:55 PM     Profile for Buran   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
You know, Hauptfrau, after reading history books, we have preconceived notions about how some period in history should appear.

If I sent you back in time, I'm sure even you'd be surprised!


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