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Saverio
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posted 04-11-2001 01:37 PM     Profile for Saverio   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
When people find out that I have an interest in the middle ages, I am frequently told, "You should join my LARP group!" or "Hey you should check out the SCA, they do that reenactment stuff!"

How does one nicely explain the difference between reenactment and those other groups. The last thing I want to do is put anyone down. (Please know that I am not trying to offend the SCA or any of it's members, I am speaking mostly of my local group).

Dan

[This message has been edited by Saverio (edited 04-11-2001).]


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Stephen atte Smythe
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posted 04-11-2001 02:03 PM     Profile for Stephen atte Smythe   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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When people find out that I have an interest in the middle ages, I am frequently told, "You should join my LARP group!" or "Hey you should check out the SCA, they do that reenactment stuff!"

"Actually, I already play with a group."
"Yeah, I've heard of/looked into them." (Saying nothing more usually means you're not impressed)
"They do, but I'm involved in something a little different."

They don't have to know your reasons, just that you have them.

Stephen atte Smythe


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Brenna
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posted 04-11-2001 04:55 PM     Profile for Brenna   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Saverio,

Are you telling me you really don't want to run around in satin with elf ears on?

However, my usual response is along the line of:

"Actually I'm already involved in a group along those lines and while it sounds like you have fun, there's no way I could make time for more involvement."

You're not cutting anyone down, you're not explaining what you do and you've made it clear that you put a lot of time into you hobby.

Simple and no-one gets hurt. (Because no matter what one person's opinions are of any "group" there is no need to be rude about a hobby someone else obviously enjoys)

Brenna


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Templar Bob
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posted 04-11-2001 05:08 PM     Profile for Templar Bob   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Saverio:

Try this:

If I got involved in one more hobby, my {wife, girlfriend, dad, mom, boss, preacher, etc.} would kill me!

It really, really works!

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Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who don't.


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hauptmann
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posted 04-11-2001 07:37 PM     Profile for hauptmann     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I just "smile and wave".

Sometimes I'll say "Yeah, I'll have to look into that." Then I do nothing.

The difficulty is, if you offer anything other than a non-committal response, you look like a jerk.

JH


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Saverio
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posted 04-12-2001 12:06 PM     Profile for Saverio   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thank you so much for your responses. I'm going to use the "I've already looked into them" line from now on, and in a week or so, it will actually be true. I found out that the local SCA group has a fighters practice around the corner from my house (literally). I don't want to dismiss them as inaccurate before I see them.

Thanks again

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Hale
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posted 04-16-2001 10:44 PM     Profile for Hale   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just tell them the truth. It doesn't mean that what you are doing is better than what they do, it's just that you choose to do something different. SCA stands for Society for Creative Anachronism, that's not re-enactment. LARP's are based wholly on fantasy and re-enactment is not. It's not that you have to refrain from snubbing your nose it's that you have to learn not to snub your nose period. I have learned a lot from several LARP groups, as well as some stuff from watching SCA people do their stuff. One of the best things about seeing the Pensac Wars, up close, is that you can get a real sense of scale and the sheer chaos of a large scale conflict. There is something to learn in everything and before you toss someone off with a flippant remark at least have the courtesy to hear them out. As long as someone is doing something well you might come away with a few new ideas of your own to use

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Saverio
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posted 04-18-2001 12:55 PM     Profile for Saverio   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hale, I am not putting down the SCA. I have a lot of respect for the SCA. However, the organization is just not what I’m looking for.

The problem that I addressed at the beginning of this post is trying to differentiate between reenactment and (for the most part) the SCA. Most of the time I can politely turn down invitation, but occasionally it will be necessary to explain further. Not one hour ago I ran into an SCA member I met through my campus's medieval club. We started talking about armour and he mentioned the use of plastic. I told him that I’m not trying to gather an SCA-legal kit, but one closer to reenactment standards. His response was, “well, the SCA does reenactment.” I tried to explain the difference, saying I was looking for “reenactment in the truest sense of the word”. He understood perfectly and took no offense.

I am still going to get in contact with the group near me. I've heard of a couple of them do some nice Romano-Bristish stuff

Dan


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Gwen
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posted 04-18-2001 09:12 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
If you want to see an SCA group that really rocks, check this out-
http://www.leonthas.com

These folks put a HUGE amount of effort into what they do, and it shows.

Gwen


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Buran
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posted 04-19-2001 08:13 PM     Profile for Buran   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Saverio:

Everyone has a place that they will not go. If you showed up at a LARP group in authentic kit, they would still let you play.

For my part, I am interested in live steel, so I ask you they fight with Real Swords... That usually separates the sheep from the goats...


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Reinhard
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posted 10-25-2001 10:27 PM     Profile for Reinhard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm SCA, and I can say without reserve that if someone in LH hadn't heard of our ongoing costume party, I'd be very suprised.
In fact, in our little corner of the globe we have LH and SCA people combined, the LH groups have a habit of disappearing and the members join the SCA (again) in desperation, after a while it's all too much and another group arises.
If someone said 'check out the *X Group*' down here, you could say "I'm already with them/have friends there."

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Sebastian Kempkens
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posted 01-08-2002 07:23 PM     Profile for Sebastian Kempkens   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Saverio:
Hale, I am not putting down the SCA. I have a lot of respect for the SCA. However, the organization is just not what I’m looking for.
Dan


There is your perfect, honest explanation.

Sebastian


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