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Gwen
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posted 11-25-2006 12:37 PM

Anyone have any idea if items in the Royal Library of Belgium are accessible online. I found the page but I'm not finding access anywhere. I can't assume it's not there as I was stumped by the BNF's website as well.

Thanks-

Gwen

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Brent E Hanner
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posted 11-25-2006 01:26 PM

Items as in what? images from manuscripts or something else?

Brent

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Gwen
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posted 11-25-2006 04:30 PM

I'm trying to track down works by Loyset Liedet, who was an illuminator who worked for Philip the Good and Chas. the Bold.

I'm looking for illuminations from
The History of Charles Martel. I may have found a 1910 art book (or what's left of it) at a UK bookshop that has all 102 plates. I'm waiting to hear back from them about it.

Also looking for Histoire de Renaut de Montauban, 1462, also illuminated by Liedet.

The Getty appears to have 15 leaves of a mss. Liedet worked on, held as MS. LUDWIG XIII 6. I found all of those online, but really only 'Gerard and Bertha Find Sustenance at a Hermitage' is useful for my purposes.

Looking for 'Histoire de Helayne', a 15th C. French mss, no more info.

Also have a number of images that list their source simply as 'Biblioteque Royale Albert 1er, Brussels'

Oh, and while I'm asking, I'm trying to find out if the 15th C. illuminations to Froissart's Chronicles have ever been collected and printed. The ones I'm looking for are held by the British Library, London.

This is one of the series I'm looking for- Royal 14 D. V.

Gwen

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Brent E Hanner
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posted 11-25-2006 08:46 PM

A Histoire de Renaut de Montauban by Liedet is MS 5072-75 Bibliothèque de l'Arsenal Paris, France

This is an abstract for an article that purposes another Liedet manuscript. http://serials.cib.unibo.it/cgi-ser/start/it/spogli/df-s.tcl?prog_art=2592199&language=ITALIANO&view=articoli

'Histoire de Helayne' is Brussels, MS 9967
It has been published as
L'Histoire de Helayne: reprduction des 26 miniatures du manuscrit no. 9967 de la Bibliotheque royale de Belgique.
London: Quaritch
WorldCat # 6996548

I think there are some works mentioned on this website but I'm tired but I kept it open and I think that is why.
http://employees.oneonta.edu/farberas/arth/arth214_folder/burgundian_frontispieces.html

Other random links with relations to him http://www.kbr.be/collections/manu/nouveautes/iv1290/iv1290_liedet.html http://www.wmich.edu/~ulib/special/collections/cat/sothebys-1970s.php http://www.abebooks.co.uk/search/sortby/3/an/Sotheby+/tn/+Catalogue+Of+Western+

I'm assuming you have informat for Somme rurale de Jean Boutilier, Loyset Liedet BNF MS Fr. 202

I doubt they have been published as a set but I will dig more on that and Liedet next time I am at the library.

Brent

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Gwen
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posted 11-25-2006 11:29 PM

There seems to be a reprint of 'L'Histoire de Helayne' available, but it's $202.00, which is a bit pricey for me. However, I did notice the author is the same as the the one listed for Charles Martel, so I searched his name and bingo- he seems to have done a whole series of books on the BNB. Cool.

Don't know anything about Somme rurale de Jean Boutilier, Loyset Liedet BNF MS Fr. 202. I came into this search on an oblique angle, having started somewhere else and not looking for these illuminators. I probably missed something obvious. What is this?

Gwen

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redrob
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posted 11-26-2006 04:19 AM

Liedet did the pictures for the 'Bresslauer Froissart' and 'histoire du Somme'
The Breslau is the most sumptious of all the Froissarts.
I have been after Liedet for some time too

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redrob
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posted 11-26-2006 04:24 AM

sorry for being oblique.
The Bresslauer is held by the Staatsbibliotheqe zu Berlin. They will give you a black and white copy for E120 + p&p.
The Liedet pictures from the Somme Rurale are held by the Staatsarchief Berlin.
The Somme Rurale in question was commissioned by Louis de Gruuthuse and was stolen by Louis the spider after Charles the Bolds death (along with Gruuthuse's Froissart)The book was broken up into pages and spread over europe. There are bits in Italy, Paris and Berlin

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Gwen
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posted 11-26-2006 08:23 AM

Thanks for the info redrob!

Does anyone know if any of these mss have been published as volumes like Rene's Book of the Tournament, Gaston Phoebus' Book of the Hunt, Decameron, etc?

I hope so, they would be *really* useful.

Gwen

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redrob
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posted 11-27-2006 12:30 PM

Not as far as i know.
The Breslau would have to be one of those unaffordable facsimile's. I have only seen Leidet's pictures in general publications.

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