I am wondering if anyone knows the manuscript this image is from. I scanned it from Tournaments and Jousts by Andrea Hopkins. on page 5. Unfortunately the only reference she gives is British Library / Arts Archive.

I would like to know more about the manuscript it came from, so if anyone has any information or at least the manuscript number at the British Library so I can contact them, that would be great. Thanks.

Cheers
Joram

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Other than that I have no idea. Is Karen Larsdatter around? She could probably track it down.

I hope it is 15th C and not Victorian.

I have a couple of other manuscript images wich show strange brocades as well ,which are from 15th c dated manuscripts.

British Library MS Cotton Nero DIX f40

This picture looks stylisticly similar to the one in my first post. This is the info on this manuscript from the British Library website.

Cott Nero D IX
Extract: Nero, D. IX. Codex membran. in folio, constans foliis 114. 1. Les haultes vertueuses prouesses, joustes, et tournois de sire Jehan de Saintre, chevalier: autrement, d'une dame des belles cousines de France, et du chevalier de Saintre. [Another in Addl MSS. between 11610 and 11620. 1. 2. Des tres loy

Das Turnierbuch Fúr Rene D'Anjou
Codices Selects Vol CIV Akademische Druck-u. Verlagsanstalt Graz, Austria.

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The top image you posted and the next one you posted are both from that manuscript Cotton Nero D. IX. The first one is f.32v.

Here are a few more images.

Images

Brent

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Originally posted by Joram van Essen:
Hi Everyone

I am wondering if anyone knows the manuscript this image is from.

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I just ordered a CD copy of Cotton Nero D IX from the British Library. SO Im looking forward to seeing the whole Manuscript.
I hope they can also supply me with a bit more information about when and where the manuscript was made.

Cheers
Joram

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(Joram- Just noticed the crests on the second mss. It's Dom and Toby! I wonder if the thistle has googly eyes on it? )

(Joram- Just noticed the crests on the second mss. It's Dom and Toby! I wonder if the thistle has googly eyes on it? )

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The first time I saw it, it only had a few feathers in it, not that bushy brown thing.

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Before the Darth Vader Suit of Death™ was delivered Toby didn't have a harness to use because he had sold his previous harness to fund the SoD. Because he needed something to joust in, he would cobble together something to use out of whatever he could find around various armourer's shops. One time he showed up in what looked like something from Mad Max- an ad hoc collection of bits and parts, a fair number of them rusty. He used what looked like a plaid car rug as a cioppa, and had a big thistle sprouting out of the top of his helmet. The thistle sported googly eyes that looked a lot like

Dominic, on the other hand, has a crest that is a gilded stag's head.

So my reference was to Toby's thistle and Dom's stag.

Jenn- FYI Toby had his plume made by a professional plume maker (I understand at great cost) in England, so I had to laugh at your description of it as a "bushy brown thing"!!!