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Topic: Archeological report from Hull
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Gwen
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posted 07-11-2005 12:03 PM
    
I'm looking for updates on the archeological excavation of an Augustinian friary in Hull which was completed in 1994. Specifically, I'm looking for any reports on the clothing remains from that dig.All I can find on it is a "British Archeology" magazine story written by David Evans in 2000. The story notes "full excavation results will be published in 2002", but I can't find that report. Thanks! Gwen
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Jeff Johnson
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posted 07-17-2005 01:24 AM
Charlotte here.
Reposted from aotc (yahoo group) quote:
Somebody on this list, IIRC, wrote to the publishers (?) and found out a little
more. Let's see if I'm remembering right...Ooh, better yet, found the message: 2389 in the archives:
(sidenote, it still looks interesting!!!) -Charlotte
--- In Authentic_SCA@yahoogroups.com, "Lena Strid" <bokmal@a...> wrote:
During my reserach for a lecture on medieval underwear next summer, I
contacted Penelope Walton regarding any pattern for the Hull friary
braies.
This is part of her reply: "I'm afraid that the article in British Archaeology that mentioned the
costume evidence from the Augustinian Friary at Hull rather
over-stated the case.
The textiles in the burials at the friary were poorly preserved
patches distributed over the bones of the bodies. There were no
complete garments. By plotting the distribution of the different
textile-types on the bones, it was possible to interpret the likely
role of the textiles within the clothing." So, no patterns. Probably info on weave-type, colour?, hems and
stitches of the garments. Always something, though... On a related note, if anyone has any good information on Medieval
underwear (theoretical info or practical), feel free to mail me about it. / Lena
[ 07-17-2005: Message edited by: Jeff Johnson ] -------------------- Geoffrey Bourrette
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Dave Key
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posted 07-17-2005 04:52 PM
I have seen a copy of a 1st pass of the work being done some time ago ... Sept 1998 I'll try and see if I can pass on any of the details as this is unpublished work.However in summary ... only 2 burials with any large amount of surviving material. Both appear to have fine, undyed worsted breeches (waist to mid thigh ... c.1410-30 and long black (tannic ) tabby floor length loose gowns .. one with hood ... coarse woollen outer & finer black lining. Hood & gown made at same time Hope that helps Cheers
Dave
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Dave Key
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posted 07-17-2005 07:14 PM
Pretty much.A few seams, enough to make some guesses but not really enough to 'reconstruct'. For the breeches they are conjecture based on the area covered by the undyed worsted cloth. Sorry not to much more. There were quite a few fragments, nothing too closely attributable to either sex or age. Most associated with metal remains. Most black/brown fabrics from tannic dying. Coarser in the main than London average, more akin to Newcastle finds. Cheers
Dave
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Dave Key
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posted 07-18-2005 05:57 PM
Actually I think they'll be able to make some reasonable deductions but mainly comparisons with other finds rather than definitive examples.As I said this was a first pass and alot of the work hadn't been completed at that point so I can't say what the final results were/will be. Often the placement of textile fragments and the presence / lack of buckles etc. may be indicative of quite a few things. For example the cloth for the 'hood' and the 'gown' being similar (if not the same) suggesting a set. The apparant lining for the 'hood' etc. So don't give up hope. Cheers
Dave
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