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Jens Boerner
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posted 11-23-2003 02:59 PM     Profile for Jens Boerner     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi everybody,

Today I heard that the Royal Armouries in Leeds do have a padded armour, dated to about 1300, in their exhibition.
Does anyone have photos, details or anything about it?
Would be of great help

Thanx in advance.


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Doug Strong
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posted 12-03-2003 12:06 PM     Profile for Doug Strong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I would also be interested in knowing about this. Do you have any more info on this?

Talbot


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Gwen
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posted 12-05-2003 11:38 AM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Toby Capwell, Curator of Arms & Armour for the Glasgow City Museums says:

"They most certainly do not have such a thing, and I do not know of anyone who
does."

He knows the collection as well as anyone, so there you go.

Gwen


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Friedrich
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posted 12-05-2003 11:54 AM     Profile for Friedrich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The only padded armour (intact/attached) that I have ever come across was a later breastplate (not cuirass) that hangs in a private castle in south/central Germany.
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Ivo
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posted 12-07-2003 10:52 AM     Profile for Ivo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
As far as I know, there´s a reconstructed mounted knight somewhere in the Royal Armouries. Mind you, not an extant defensive garment, but a mannequin sporting gamboised cuisses.

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Ivo

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Ivo
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posted 12-07-2003 10:53 AM     Profile for Ivo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
As far as I know, there´s a reconstructed mounted 14th century knight somewhere in the Royal Armouries. Mind you, not an extant defensive garment, but a mannequin sporting gamboised cuisses an (if I remember correctly) a gambeson underneath his maille hauberk.

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Ivo

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Ivo
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posted 12-07-2003 10:54 AM     Profile for Ivo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
P.S.: My fault, sorry. Please delete my first entry.

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Ivo


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Ivo
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posted 12-07-2003 10:56 AM     Profile for Ivo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The fellas from Arador have got it in their gallery.
http://arador.com/gallery/leeds.html

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Ivo

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Dave Key
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posted 12-08-2003 07:48 AM     Profile for Dave Key   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'd suspect that the padded armour being referred to is actually the Rothwell garment we've discussed elsewhere.
Rothwell is only a few (5-10) miles from the Royal Armouries in Leeds.

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chef de chambre
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posted 12-13-2003 10:27 AM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
...that would place it likely over 100 years later date, at the least. As has been discussed elsewhere, dating that particual object is a bit chancy, but 1300 is 'right out'.

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Ivo
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posted 12-13-2003 01:27 PM     Profile for Ivo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Pleas, pretty please...is there anybody out there who could send me a copy of the Rothwell article?
Everybody seems to know what ist´s all about except for me. Any chance to have a copy or an abstract of the text... or at least a scanned picture posted here?
*whine, beg*

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Ivo

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hauptmann
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posted 12-15-2003 01:44 AM       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have a photocopy of the article. Send your mailing address to me at:

jeffrey@historicenterprises.com

and I'll send you a photocopy. If you're outside the continental US, you'll owe me a favor (or postage money at least).


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Jens Boerner
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posted 12-15-2003 03:16 AM     Profile for Jens Boerner     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hm,
Thanx to everybody, it's kinda strange, maybe I misunderstood the person who told me that, though I'm pretty sure he talked about such a garment (original one) existing in the RA.

Well, a pity


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Jens Boerner
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posted 12-19-2003 01:08 PM     Profile for Jens Boerner     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm currently in contact with the RA, they also deny the existance of such a garment, though the person who claimed to already have seen such in their warehouse (not exhibition) stays at his point. Now all I can do is keep paitent and try to get some info out of them...
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