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Topic: Museum of London Lanterns
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Zanetto
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posted 03-26-2003 09:09 PM
    
Greetings,A friend and I are working on making replicas of the copper alloy lanterns in the Museum of London (#1365 and #1366). While doing our research, we found some discrepancies between our sources for the sizes of these lanterns. The following summarizes our findings: London Museum Medieval Catalogue 1940
Anglia Pub. pgs 184-185
1) A1366 - Round can, flat top- 11.5in. high
2) A1365 - Round can, Conical top- 8.5in high
The Medieval Household Daily Living c.1150-c.1450
London: The Stationery Office pg150-151
1) A1366- pg 151 285mm ( 11.2in)
2) A1365- No reference.
England In The Age of Chaucer
William Woods - Stein & Day Pub. 1976
Photograph of A1366 and A1365 side by side on pg 57. No text reference. The Photo shows what appears to be a crossed shadow as if lighted from either side. A1365 is clearly taller.
Fire & Light In The Home pre-1820
John Caspall- Printed in England on Consort Royal Satin from Donside Mills, Aberdeen, by the Antique Collectors' Club Ltd., Woodbridge, Suffolk IP12 1DS 1987
Photograph on pg 226 (Same photo as in Woods, but better print quality) with the following measurements;
1) A1366- 8.5 in.
2) A1365- 11.75in.
Does anyone know which lantern is which size? We plan on contacting the museum. Is there someone in particular in the Museum of London I could address this issue to? Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Rob
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hauptmann
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posted 03-26-2003 10:53 PM
Rob,Gwen and I are going to England in 1-1/2 weeks (April 7), we'll be in London at the tail end of the trip, probably around the 19th or so. If you can wait until we get back, I'd be happy to photograph the pieces if they're on display and try to nail down their height. Bob Charrette of LaBelle may have info on them also, as he's been to the museum and seen some things in reserve should these not be on display. His email is rnc1382@aol.com Some years ago I reconstructed the conical topped lantern in both copper and thin tin plate and had horrible luck with it melting candles. I could never get it to keep from consuming candles at an alarming rate, no matter what size candle I put in it. A friend of mine in LA had one of the cylindrical ones made in copper by a tinker/tinsmith and it worked acceptably. If you have better luck than I did, I'd sure like to know how. Let me know if you want me to check it out on my trip.
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Zanetto
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posted 03-27-2003 04:58 AM
Jeff,I would really appreciate it if you could check into this while you and Gwen are in England. Thanks! Rob
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Woodcrafter
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posted 04-22-2003 08:56 PM
Well the 20th century assumption is that all items were made to a standard size. Make your lantern to a size that fits the candles you will be using. Finger-braided linen cord makes excellent wick. I am trying to included a pic of the brass lantern that I have made.PARMA projects Woodcrafter -------------------- Woodcrafter
14th c. Woodworking
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UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
- email me off list for pictures (I don't think the museum would be happy with me publishing the photos without permission).
