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Gwen
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posted 11-12-2002 09:17 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Here Be Wyverns : Hundreds of Patterns Graphed From Medieval Sources
Nancy Spies
Arelate Studio, 2002
ISBN 0-9718960-0-3

"Author Nancy Spies presents over 400 charted patterns drawn from authentic medieval sources. The patterns – imaginary creatures, animals, birds, people, lettering, etc. – can be adapted for embroidery, weaving, mosaics, etc. by anyone familiar with graphed designs. Seventeen color plates. Documentation and sources provided for all patterns."

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Has anyone here seen this in person? I am tempted to buy it based on the review but frankly, the only place I've seen it listed is on SCA sites (Amazon doesn't appear to have it, nor does ABEBooks). Since generally speaking the SCA's idea of "documentation" and mine often disagree, I'm a bit leary of buying it sight unseen.

Any comments would be welcome!

Thanks!

Gwen


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J.K. Vernier
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posted 11-12-2002 09:32 PM     Profile for J.K. Vernier   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I haven't seen it, but Nancy Spies is the author of "Ecclesiastical Pomp and Aristocratic Circumstance," a very competent treatment of brocaded tablet-woven band patterns and techniques which has been out for a while now. That book was the rtesult of close observation of many originals in European museums and churches. If this book is of the same depth and quality it should be worthwhile.

I know that Nancy Spies is well-regarded by some people I know in the SCA who definitely have a clue. Does that help a little?


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Gwen
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posted 11-13-2002 11:50 AM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks John!

Meaning no disrespect, but do you have any idea how the book is regarded -outside- of SCA circles?

Really, the book is only $30, so I should just buy it anyway.....

Gwen


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J.K. Vernier
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posted 11-13-2002 12:06 PM     Profile for J.K. Vernier   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
No, Gwen, I don't know anybody outside of the SCA anymore.

I mainly know about the Tablet weaving book because Eleanor has a copy of the book, and I guess she counts. I can bring the book down this Sunday so you can take a look.


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Fire Stryker
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posted 11-13-2002 12:39 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey Gwen,

Go here: http://www.weavershand.com/brocade.htm

This is an example of one of her bibliographies. Also to find info on other bits of info you might try going to www.google.com and typing in "Nancy Spies". This pulls up a lot of links I believe some may include articles.

Jenn

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Karen Larsdatter
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posted 11-13-2002 02:48 PM     Profile for Karen Larsdatter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I should mention (in the interests of full disclosure) that the author of this book happens to be a friend of mine, so that may color my point of view a bit.

The book is mostly patterns for counted-work (the back cover suggests techniques such as Brocaded Tablet Weaving, Mosaic, Cross Stitch, Knitting, Patchwork, Beading, Tapestry, and Needlepoint) based on various sorts of graphical sources from the Middle Ages.

In the long run, if you're looking for hugely authentic patterns for medieval needlework ... well, not meaning to sound evil or anything, but this just isn't that book, I'm afraid. But if you're interested in doing a cross stitch piece (or other form of counted work as from the list above) based on medieval motifs from period artwork, then this might be a good source for you; the patterns are fun, simple, and easy to adapt.

As mentioned, Nancy's webpage at www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html has more information about this book. She's also sent a few of her sea monsters to the Embroiderers' Guild in the SCA's Kingdom of Atlantia for our website: see aeg.atlantia.sca.org/projects/ingvild.htm (though I'm not sure if these are less detailed than they are in the finished book; I recharted them on my home computer to post to the website, as she had only sent me photocopies of finished charts, and I figured recharting them on my computer would make for a clearer finished file; she didn't send color keys or anything like that).

Nancy is currently working on research for a book on cotton, its use in history, and the cotton trade for another upcoming book.

Karen


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Gwen
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posted 11-13-2002 02:59 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Karen-

Thanks for your candor! I think I'm going to go ahead and buy it anyway, so you've done no harm to your friend's income.

I have a better idea of what to expect though, and that makes me more willing to make the purchase.

Thanks!

Gwen


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Gwen
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posted 11-13-2002 03:00 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Karen-

Thanks for your candor! I think I'm going to go ahead and buy it anyway, so you've done no harm to your friend's income.

I have a better idea of what to expect though, and that makes me more willing to make the purchase.

Thanks!

Gwen


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Gina
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posted 11-14-2002 04:07 PM     Profile for Gina   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just a little add-on,
Nancy self-publishes her books, which is why you won't see them in places like Amazon. unfortunately, textiles and textile history rarely get a publishing deal!

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