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Gwen
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posted 06-14-2002 03:20 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have undertaken a project to collect primary / documentary evidence for military provisioning on the Continent. I'm focusing on the years 1450-70 in Burgundy.

I would be most grateful for any contributions to this endeavor. Recognizing a serious dearth of information on this topic, I will be happy to take any references to anything to do with the feeding of troops any time in the 1400's on the Continent or England. This includes ordinance lists, military organization treatises, secondary references (such as Froissart), leet roles - anything really.

The purpose of this is to establish some hard parameters for what we should and should not eat at LH / Armet events, and my intention to make this information generally available to groups.

Thanks!

Gwen
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Hugh Knight
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posted 06-14-2002 10:50 PM     Profile for Hugh Knight   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I, too, would love to know more about this. I have often thought of trying to limit my food to *exactly* the right foodstuffs at events, but haven't had the time to research it adequately. I had thought to use frozen meat to simulate meat from live animals taken along on campaign or liberated from the locals, but to do everything else as close to reality as possible. I look forward to learning more, Gwen.

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Ivo
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posted 06-26-2002 05:02 PM     Profile for Ivo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello.

The Companie of Saynte George (Gerry Embletonīs troupe) have recently put their formerly internal magazine "Dragon" on their homepage. In one of the volumes is an article on military diet in 1470-80.

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Ivo

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Hugh Knight
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posted 06-26-2002 06:13 PM     Profile for Hugh Knight   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Hello.

The Companie of Saynte George (Gerry Embletonīs troupe) have recently put their formerly internal magazine "Dragon" on their homepage. In one of the volumes is an article on military diet in 1470-80.

Regards
Ivo


I have that issue, and it's a pretty good start, but it mostly talks about ingrediants. How about recipes?

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Hugh Knight
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Dave Key
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posted 11-22-2002 12:22 PM     Profile for Dave Key   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Gwen,

Long time away I'm afraid ... I still have the refs for the documents in the Public Record Office which include lists of the victuals taken on several campaigns (France & Scotland) during Henry VI's and Edward IV's reigns ... hopefully early next year I'll be able to start trawling through them.

I'll keep you posted.

Cheers
Dave


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Gwen
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posted 11-22-2002 08:37 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks very much Dave- any info you have would be greatly appreciated, as there's noty much available to me here.

Gwen


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Dave Key
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posted 11-26-2002 12:34 PM     Profile for Dave Key   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Funnily enough the first reference found was ...

Michelmas 20 Edward IV [1481]
To John Barker of London, goldsmith, in full payment of 273l. 6s. 8d. for 80 butts of malmsey, purchased by him for the use of the army of the Lord the King, going as well by land as by water against the Scotch enemies, price the butt, 3l. 8s. 4d.

Looks like the army had its priorites sussed.
Cheers
Dave


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