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freiman
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posted 05-04-2002 02:12 PM     Profile for freiman     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Good folks,

Has anyone read Either "A Distant Mirror", by Barbara W. Tuchman or "The Archer's Tale" by Bernard Cornwell?

I would be interested to hear the thoughts of anyone on this board.

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tim seasholtz
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posted 05-04-2002 05:16 PM     Profile for tim seasholtz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
A Distant Mirror is an OUTSTANDING book! Not just as history but for its readability as well.Also, it can be found at any second hand bookstore for a few bucks. I have three copies myself!
I love Cornwell's stuff but have not read the Archer title.

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Hugh Knight
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posted 05-05-2002 12:52 PM     Profile for Hugh Knight   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I seem to be the only person who feels this way (not an uncommon situation in which to find myself), but I detested Tuchman's book. Why would someone who seemed to so hate the 14th century write a book about it? It reminded me of Huzinga's _Waning of the Middle Ages_, about which I felt much the same after reading.

A friend of mine who's an historian says that Tuchman is a very *amateur* historian, and many of her beliefs are questionable, but I only read the book once, long ago, and can't remember the exact failings. I was just so shocked at reading a book by someone who so obviously disliked the period.

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tim seasholtz
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posted 05-05-2002 04:23 PM     Profile for tim seasholtz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I agree with you about Huzinga's work. As far as Tuchman being an "amateur" - how many Pulitzers has your friend won?
I only say this since a Prof. I had in school was a friend of Tuchmans many years ago and thought she was awesome. Okay - she isn't perfect, but who is?
I like that an author is not so enamoured of a certain period. I think it lends an objectivty that can be missing sometimes. For instance, if a Duke in the SCA wrote a book about the Middle Ages I would be suspicious because I know that kind of passion can make for apologies and ommisions when the author realises that something they must cover is less than pretty. William Morris, who loved the Middle Ages, had no idea what they were about and romanticised them to the point of absurdity...
The Middle Ages had some horrific aspects and I'm glad they are covered as such. The present has just as many. We must be careful to remember not to put a 20th century "mode of thought" or morality onto bygone days (which is the hardest part of reenactment to get through to the public)but those foibles can still be explored.

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David Meyer
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posted 05-05-2002 04:36 PM     Profile for David Meyer   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello all -

Just another opinion, for what that's worth. "A Distant Mirror" is a good place to start, and it's responsible for introducing an interesting period of history (my personal favorite) to thousands/millions of readers.

I found Tuchman's frequent (over a dozen) complaints about the pointy poulaines annoying, and she has a fairly strong anti-church bias which colors her interpretation of the period.

Just my two cents – not my favorite book either.

D


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NEIL G
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posted 05-09-2002 03:52 AM     Profile for NEIL G     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi;

Bernard Cornwall's "The archer's tale" was published in the UK as "Harlequin". It's supposed to be the first of a series, but I haven't heard anything of further installments - I think maybe it didn't sell well enough to justify doing more of these instead of more Napoleonic stuff.

I liked it. It's not as good as his Winter King/Enemy of God/Excalibur trilogy, but entirely readable, and and the history doesn't have any truly screaming errors.

Couple of points that struck me as anachronistic, but hey, maybe it's me that's wrong.

If you like Cornwall's other stuff, I'd give it a go.

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David Meyer
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posted 05-12-2002 06:54 AM     Profile for David Meyer   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just another thought -

"The Merchant of Prato" by Iris Origo is something to take a look at if you're into 14th C. history. I'm in the middle of it myself, and am enjoying it very much. Origo looks at daily life of a particularily successful merchant through the vast library of documents that survived him. This from the introduction:

"and when, in 1870, some learned citizens of Prato brought them [his documents] to light, an astonishing number still remained: some five hundred ledgers and account books, about three hundred deeds of partnership (some of them belonging to other small companies, connected with his own),. insurance policies and bills of lading, bills of exchange and cheques - and, above all, some 140 thousand letters, of which eleven thousand belong to his private correspondence, and the rest, in 503 files, to the various aspects of his commercial activity."

Talk about a rich source material!! I picked up a cheap Penguin paperback copy, but I'm not sure this is available in the States. Anyway, it's worth a read if you're interested in the 14th C.

D


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tim seasholtz
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posted 05-12-2002 08:24 AM     Profile for tim seasholtz   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
ust finished Cornwell's The Archer's Tale and I liked it. It could have been better (unlike the Sharpe's stuff which is amazing) but I recommend it anyway.
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