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Anne-Marie
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posted 10-08-2001 11:12 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
hey all from Anne-Marie

the kids in la maisnie want to make beds. They really want to make middle class appropriate, 15th century Flemish (ie not Norse) beds.

does anyone have any documentation for such?

also, does anyone have patterns or plans they'd be willing to share?

I've seen one mss of a bed in a tent, 15th century francoflemish. I've seen a drawing of a trestle type bed but it was later. of course there's the norse bed.

any other ideas?
of course I'd really appreciate some primary source stuff (duh . would hate to make everyone beds and then find out they're not appropriate for us!

many thanks,
--AM

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J.K. Vernier
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posted 10-17-2001 02:32 AM     Profile for J.K. Vernier   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I don't have anything specifically 15th-century or franco-flemish to report, but since the last discussion about beds some months ago, I have taken notice of several excellent images of beds from the frescoes of the basilica of St. Francis in Assisi. These are in the cycles painted by Giotto & co, at the end of the 13th century. Two rope beds are clearly shown with the rope configuration quite different from the usual 19th-century type. The ropes appear to be netted and hung rather loosely (Gwen suggested they could be spranged ropes), with the effect of a somewhat rigid hammock rather than a taut mattress support. One image shows what seems to be a very generously stuffed ticking atop the ropes (Vision of Brother Augustine and the Bishop of Assisi, upper church cycle of the Life of St. Francis), another has no mattress at all and seems to be in use as a stretcher (Raising of the Boy in Sessa, Lower church cycle of miracles of St. Francis). Another picture shows a bed probably of simple planks, with a mattress atop, supported on three trestles running side-to-side. These trestles each have two legs on each end, set in at slight angles (Upper church cycle, Confession of a Woman Raised from the Dead). This configuration corresponds to a type discussed by Peter Thornton in The Italian Renaissance Interior, for which he provides an 18th-century illustration; clearly a cheap and long-lived type.

The cycles at Assisi also have various nice details of bedding - plaid blankets, sheets with cutwork seams, etc, excellent for c.1300 Italy, and perhaps at least encouraging for other periods where details are lacking.

Scala has a good PB book on the frescoes which I've seen at Borders. My copy is just titled "The Basilica of St Francis in Assisi," but I think it has been amended to something lurid like "Survival and Destruction" since the earthquake.


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AnnaRidley
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posted 10-19-2001 11:59 AM     Profile for AnnaRidley   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
While at the Met this past weekend I found several paintings and carvings with neat bed details. I'll see what I can do to gather the pictures together.

Mitake.


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Anne-Marie
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posted 10-21-2001 12:47 PM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
hey all from AM

this is great info!

John, can I please post your reponse to our household mailing list? and Anna?

--AM

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J.K. Vernier
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posted 10-21-2001 03:02 PM     Profile for J.K. Vernier   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Please feel free to post to your list. The current Assisi book title is "Glory and Destruction," but I'm not 100% sure the content is the same as the book I have.

-John

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