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Buran
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posted 02-05-2001 08:07 PM     Profile for Buran   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Military timeline: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/volunteerst/fortmacarthur/

Anyone been to it? Impressions?


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hauptfrau
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posted 02-05-2001 09:11 PM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The site is a WWII artillery battery that is preserved as a historic site. There's lots of artillery demos and battles enacted during the run of the event.

There is not as wide a range of periods represented as at MTA; Civil War groups, lots of overlap in the "Californio" period, WWI and WWII, Vietnam right up thru Gulf war. The Red Company attended last year and was the first pre Rev-War group ever to participate. Reception to us was very positive once they came down to look at the camp and realized we were not the SCA (no offense intended).

Not too much for the women, as most of the groups are heavily "boys with guns" oriented, but I found it interesting. The view of Catalina island was breathtaking, and the weather quite hospitible for California in July.

My most memorable moment was during the complementary dinner on Saturday night- they ran the food queue through the artillery bunker, and had tables set up outside, between the back of the bunker and the adjacent offices. Since the bunker had been restored, it looked much the same as it had during the war. We were toward the end of the food line, and wound up seated surrounded by men in WWI and WWII uniforms eating their food. Brother Geoffrey stood up to say grace, and all the men at the surrounding tables stopped eating, took their hats off and bowed their heads. Brother Geoffrey prayed for the men during the uncertaintly of war, spoke of the promise of the everlasting and the assurance that God was with the men in their struggles. He worded it so that it applied to any period, and all the men at the tables nodded their heads as he spoke. At the end of the prayer, "Amen", "thank you Padre" and "well said Chaplain" came from the surrounding tables, and every hair on my head stood straight up.

They put on a "USO" show while we ate, with the "Andrews Sisters" singing WWII classics. The men in uniform got up to swing dance with a few women in 40's dresses and poufy hairdos, and even each other when the women proved too few. When the singers sang "I'll be seeing you in apple blossom time" and the mixed couples' dancing slowed, I was absolutely overcome by the words to the song and started to cry. I am very fond of 40's tunes and am familiar with that particular one, but hearing sung in that venue really brought the meaning home.

Not a huge event, but a very worthwhile one for me.

Gwen


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Buran
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posted 02-06-2001 01:31 PM     Profile for Buran   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What is MTA!?
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hauptfrau
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posted 02-06-2001 04:09 PM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Rather than reinvent the wheel, see the discussion on MTA
http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000413.html

Gwen


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Jeff Johnson
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posted 02-07-2001 03:30 PM     Profile for Jeff Johnson   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
MTA Link:
http://www.historyisfun.org/jyf1/calendar.html

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Buran
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posted 02-27-2001 08:02 PM     Profile for Buran   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I wonder about strictly authentic camps where you are meeting the public. I'm thinking of bringing pamphlets and binders full of documentation. Would this be "kosher" or appropriate, or distracting, where everyone is trying to be historically accurate?

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Brenna
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posted 02-27-2001 09:27 PM     Profile for Brenna   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I understand you completely Gwen. I often perform WWII songs with a local jazz band that plays to a faithful retiree crowd. It was a long time before I could get through "The White Cliffs of Dover" without falling apart.

Brenna


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Fire Stryker
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posted 02-28-2001 06:48 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Buran,
maybe if you have tent in your camp that has a small table with a wooden paper tray containing the pamphlets or a period bowl or something that is not in "public view" but if they are allowed to look in a tent they can see a small sign that says "Take One". The rest of the camp won't be disturbed, or have some business cards in a pouch that you can slip to people while you are talking to them. It would be less intrusive.

I don't know if that helps or not.

Jenn

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Geoffrey
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posted 02-28-2001 10:51 AM     Profile for Geoffrey   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
One thing I've seen done is that if you have a fence of some sort around your encampment, you can place your pamphlets in containers near the gates. This way, people can get them if they want them, but they won't disrupt the look of the inside of the camp.

Just remember thought, that 97% of whatever you hand out will eventually end up in the trash. So don't put too much effort into it. :-)


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Gwen
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posted 02-28-2001 06:17 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Buran, you may be interested to know that NONE of the groups participating at Ft. Mac provide documentation for anything.

Don't expect anything near the level of MTA- this is a pretty loosey-goosey event, and the winners of the straw poll mostly win because of air currents, or because they've won before.

Last year, the Romans won best pre-1800 camp and costume, competing against us. We had 6 tents, 12 people, 2 horses and the whole enchilada. The Roman guy's outfit had vinyl edging on it and door pulls for decoration, and the camp was 1 tent with blanket covered director's chairs and a T-shirt they were selling hanging from the center pole. HOWEVER, everyone was in an uproar over "Gladiator", so he was very popular with the attendants, so he/they won.

Have fun there, but don't get your shorts in a twist about authenticity unless you want to.

Gwen


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