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larcheveque
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posted 01-30-2005 03:36 PM
    
Hi everybody, I wonder if raised helmets are common in re-enactment groups. For example, did someone know how many of Saynt-Georges company's member have this quality of replicas? And in Wolfe Argent, what kind of helmet do you have? (welded or raised, mild steel, wrought iron, spring steel) François L'Archevêque [ 01-30-2005: Message edited by: larcheveque ] -------------------- www.flarcheveque.com
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Martin
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posted 01-30-2005 04:05 PM
Hi François,
well I would say around 30% of the helmets in
the Company of Saint George are raised, especially those from Walter Suckart, the rest are welded, but you have to take a close look.
Certainly raised would be the thing, but not to many people are able to make them properly and the welded ones are only noticed when you take a close look at the inside, it is of cource a price question too.[ 01-30-2005: Message edited by: Martin ] -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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chef de chambre
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posted 01-30-2005 07:58 PM
Actually, I have three raised hats, which accounts for around 25% in our group as well. You will see the newest one Saturday Fredrich, it was the one I contracted a couple years back for the article I just wrote for the Armour Research Society. You must remember the little russeted archers skullcap/sallet? That is #1, then the chapel de fer is #2.All three of the raised ones are 'spring-steel'. Two are from Robert McPhereson, and one is from Patrick Thadden. We have one black, one painted black per Cenninis recipie, one russeted, one with a high polish, and the rest with a very basic polish. I'd like to see a couple more black, or tinned in the group to give a broad representation of finish. With the ones that are welded, you indeed have to look close, and from the inside. -------------------- Bob R.
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larcheveque
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posted 02-01-2005 02:36 PM
Thanks for your replies. Me and my partner Éric are right in the middle of experimenting with raising technics. Éric already made a small kettle hat and now we are making two other full scale raised helmets in 14 ga mild steel. And yes, it seems like it's gonna take a lot more time than a welded helmet. This is the picture of the small raised kettle hat:
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Woodcrafter
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posted 02-01-2005 03:33 PM
Very nice helmets.Here is a link to allow you to make them completely authentic. The Real Wrought Iron Company Not sure you could get 18 guage iron from them, but they do show 16 guage. [ 02-01-2005: Message edited by: Woodcrafter ] -------------------- Woodcrafter
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Martin
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posted 02-04-2005 03:54 AM
Hi Per,
you might be right, haven´t really been going around looking into peoples Helmets, but I do remember seeing Walter having a helmet along which he said is raised, but armour really isn´t my field, only when it is about painting armour properly in miniatures.
I know the welded ones are cheating a bit but if you really have to take a very close look to the inside, I personally don´t have great problems with that.[ 02-04-2005: Message edited by: Martin ] -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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Martin
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posted 02-07-2005 02:35 PM
Hi Per,
well I belong to the Company of Saint George since 1991 and am co founder of 1476 Staedtisches Aufgebot, yes I was at last years pentacost event, I was the fellow doing the bank where you could get those silver pennys from Mainz. But chances are now slim of meeting me at European events as I am moving to the other side of the pond (Atlantic).Martin -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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larcheveque
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posted 02-07-2005 04:57 PM
Hi Martin, Where are you in Canada? Éric and I are starting a new reenactment group. Probably Swiss, late 15th century. Any tips for newbies in the reenactment world? -------------------- www.flarcheveque.com
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per lillelund jensen
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posted 02-08-2005 02:29 AM
Hi LarchevequeI also belong to "The Company of Saynte Georges" since 1997 and The St.Olavs Gild in Sweden, but they are all members of Saynte Georges to.  Thanks for the compliment. Cheers
Per
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Eric Dube
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posted 02-08-2005 09:16 AM
Hi Per as Francois said your work is incredible, I was wandering if you would be willing to share a few tips on your raising Techniques.Eric -------------------- www.armuredube.comwww.bico.tv
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Martin
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posted 02-08-2005 10:21 AM
Hi Per,
yes that was me, although my scribes office was reduced there to the very basic as in a field camp the fancier things and what has to do with painting wouldn´t have fitted in. Yes you are right, military isn´t my thing already enought doing that in my opinion, and secondly I would like to show that there is more than only armour and weapons in the 15th century. Well I guess it would be a bit boring if everyone fancied the same interests and things?Hi Francois,
no I am not yet in Canada first in the begining of March I will be there. Well my wife and I are hoping it might be the region around Ottawa, but could be also south of Toronto as there is more industrie. Well need a job to do this hobby! 
Well I would be interested in doing something along that direction of Swiss 15th century, I have plenty of material and if you fellows are interested, well get in touch with me under: Martin.Jungnickel@gmx.de since that is a web addresse I can call up my mails form anywhere in the world.
From where abouts are you two? Martin -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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Eric Dube
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posted 02-08-2005 11:09 AM
Hi Martin, for sure me and François are interested in any help or tips you might have we will get in touch with you, we live in a small village call St Mathieu du Parc a 1.30 hour drive from Montréal we are planning a Re-enactment weekend spring 2006 in St Mathieu du Parc we have a wonderful site for it.Eric -------------------- www.armuredube.comwww.bico.tv
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Eric Dube
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posted 02-08-2005 11:11 AM
Hi Fire Stryker sorry I don’t now your real name, I am curious as witch group contacted you from Quebec since we are from Quebec and in the process of forming a group it might be a interesting contact.Eric -------------------- www.armuredube.comwww.bico.tv
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Martin
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posted 02-08-2005 11:39 AM
Hi Jenn,
thats o.k., I only put in my e-mail addresse, as I have lots of pictures and stuff on my computer but not on the net, so that those interested can have a look at that material, wasn´t meant as to keeping someone out! 
MartinBut it would be great if something along that way of Swiss Burgundian 15th century develops! [ 02-08-2005: Message edited by: Martin ] -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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Fire Stryker
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posted 02-08-2005 11:56 AM
I created a new thread under INFORMATION. So we can continue up there.Sorry Erik, I forget that I don't always sign my name. Jenn -------------------- ad finem fidelis
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per lillelund jensen
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posted 02-08-2005 12:33 PM
Hi ErikI thought that it might be you they talked about, i rember that you sent me a E-mail some time ago. Raising: Sure, ill help you if i can. What do you whant to know?? Martin
I rember that you sat and painted at Chateau Haut Konigsbourg back in 1997 or 98 cant rember what year. Cheers all Per L
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