In several books I found pictures of a particularly interesting type of sallet, generally dubbed as "black sallets" or "german sallets", which are looking pretty much like the ones one can find very often in Albrecht Dürers paintings.

Unfortunately they are generally shown in profile only, which makes them look a bit odd- sort of like eastern German army helmets.

As far as I know the one that used to be on display combined with the harness of Roberto da Sanseverino is still in Vienna (which is mentioned and described, but not depicted in the Catalogue...), and another in London, either in the Wallace Collection or in the Royal Armouries.

Well...at the moment I can´t afford any holidays, neither to Vienna nor to London.
I´d rather spend my pocket money on a proper replica which I cn hardly oorder without some decent reference;o)

So...Can anyone help me with finding pictures of the said type of helmet?
Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated, be it book tips, links on the web or the sending of scanned pictures via E-Mail.

Thanks in advance and best regrds

Ivo

P.S.: http://www.condottiero.com/ep675p9oyht9/arms-and-armour-society/home.html

That´s the kind of thing I am dreaming of...

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There is another of these in Venice, see Franzoi, L'Armeria del Palazzo Ducale a Venezia.

The Wallace Collection has one. The Royal Armouries at Leeds does as well - a nicely painted one.

There is also one in the Philadelphia Museum, although I don't know of any accessible illustrations. This one has been polished bright.

Peter Finer, the English dealer, sold one of these in his 2001 catalogue, with three excellent color pictures - this is an impressively painted example.

I'll let you know if I can think of any others.

as far as I know the one in the armoury in Munich (I have a picture from www.bildindex.de, and, I think, from "Das Münchner Zeughaus" as well -but I have to look it up) is still there.
It´s remarkable that all these Schallern (there are often mentioned as "Jagdschallern" especially in old literature) are from very thin material- 1.5 mm and less, the weight for the one in Vienna is under 1,8 kg- unusual for a helmet with that volume! Perhaps thats the fact why in historism the term "Jagdschaller" was inventioned, because they couldn´t believe that these helmets were used in field.
Unfortunately, I haven´t a front picture, too, but a reproduction I saw once had a very "bulgy" skull..

Best regards

Hope this helps Patrick

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