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D.W. Peters
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posted 05-16-2003 12:58 PM     Profile for D.W. Peters     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Subject line sums it up. I am intersted in maintaining as period a look as possible, but I am also concerned about injuries that I can prevent.

For those that have fought in turnshoes what can you tell me that will ease my concerns?

For those who prefer modern ankle support what can you tell me?


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chef de chambre
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posted 05-16-2003 05:12 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have had no problems in moving or fighting in turnshoes - in armour or out of it, for 5 years. It is a strongly held belief in many parts of the Western Martial Arts Community that turnshoes are essential to properly understanding the footwork in Late Medieval fechtbuch.

In Late Medival Living History and Reenacment proper in the US, anything but turnshoes are forbidden by every 15th or 14th century group in these catagories actually attempting combat. Turnshoes are only particularly dangerous to wear in combat when shoes are mis-matched - that is, everybody in turnshoes are endangerd by the clod in Engineers boots. Getting stepped on while wearing turnshoes is not particularly painful if the person stepping is wearing turnshoes as well. Turnshoes that are broken in, and have properly abraided soles are no more dangerous in most terrain conditions than any other footwear, unless you start looking to athletic shoes with cleats.

In my experience, turnshoes are far more comfortable to wear than most modern, and most other tyoes of historic footwear. Ankle support can be got by a brace - ones are made that can be worn under turnshoes (at least ankle or calf boots). The dangers of turnshoes are highly overrated - largely exagerated by people whop have never worn a properly made set, or by people who just plain adamantly refuse to try anything 'less supportive'.

If your looking at combat in the SCA, or any similar club, then by all means where whatever you are comfortable with. In the US however, in Late Medieval reenactment, as stated before - no other type of shoes are allowed.

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Bob R.


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D.W. Peters
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posted 05-16-2003 05:20 PM     Profile for D.W. Peters     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Bob,

Thank you for the very detailed reply. It was exactly the information that I was looking for and I also thank you for not scolding me on asking a question that relates (at least in my case) to SCA combat as happened on my other thread regarding how to strap a suit in a period manner.

I will definately look into getting a pair. Are there any companies that you would suggest that make turnshoes that will hold up better than others in combat?

Also, if it matters I will be pointing Sabatons to the turnshoes for use in <insert gasp> SCA combat.


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Strongbow
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posted 05-16-2003 10:47 PM     Profile for Strongbow     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've had nothing but good experiences with turnshoes EXCEPT on wet grass. In such cases it has been necessary for me to moderate movement a bit more than in modern footwear, but not to any crippling point.

Strongbow


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Otto von Teich
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posted 05-18-2003 01:37 PM     Profile for Otto von Teich   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Totaly agree with strongbow. Turnshoes are also VERY comfortable to boot! ...Otto
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