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Aaron Miaullis
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posted 07-24-2001 08:16 PM     Profile for Aaron Miaullis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
In my Arms and Armour book, there is this suit (that others have placed into their web-sites):
http://members.tripod.com/~aaron_neilson/ga1.html http://www.claudiospage.com/armour1.htm http://www.sscc.cc.tn.us/bmcclure/Links/armor.htm

Please note, it is the SAME picture!! Now, WHO owns this suit, and can I get photographs of it?

Help!

It's a REALLY nice suit, and (with some inflated ego) I think Loren and I can make it with some forge dishing and raising....

-Aaron

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-Aaron Miaullis, SCAer with Authenticity Leanings (yes, it's not an oxymoron... :)maybe...)

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chef de chambre
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posted 07-24-2001 08:50 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Aaron,

I think it is either in the Port de Halle in Brussles, or it is in the Belgian 'Musee l'Armee' (who's proper name escapes me).

Eghad, but that is one 'fugley' great bascinet. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder though, and it may be so homely as to exude charm. I reckon it would be an intimidating sight to see someone lumbering toward you in that intent on whacking you with a pollaxe - in good fun or not!

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Aaron Miaullis
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posted 07-24-2001 09:51 PM     Profile for Aaron Miaullis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks Bob!

I knew I could count on you!

Hummm. Still can't find it, but you've sent me in the right direction.

"Eghad, but that is one 'fugley' great bascinet. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder though, and it may be so homely as to exude charm. I reckon it would be an intimidating sight to see someone lumbering toward you in that intent on whacking you with a pollaxe - in good fun or not!"

Really! I like the helm (and the armour). It just seems...me. It would be that or Henry VIII's suit, which is beyond my skill. The chamberlain's suit is basicly 15th Century arms, legs, sabatons, gauntlets and torso, with a "fugly" helm and goret on top!

I would like to play in the SCA, and be period correct, until my mind goes in old age. This suit I believe will protect me, and let me play uninjured until my dotage.

I will just have to accept any old shot as good, because otherwise I will be called a rhino. But, with my bicylist legs (40 miles /day) and proper polearm technique...they may never hit me to make it an issue!

Thanks again Bob! If you come across any other information, please let me know!

-Aaron

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posted 07-24-2001 10:52 PM       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Nope, sorry Bob.

L'Arte dell'Armatura cites it as being in Vienna.

So that would have it there at least as late as 1967.


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Aaron Miaullis
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posted 07-24-2001 11:35 PM     Profile for Aaron Miaullis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Of course, I type in "Armour Vienna"...and I get....

Vienna sausages made by the Armour company.

Time to try another tactic!

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-Aaron Miaullis, SCAer with Authenticity Leanings (yes, it's not an oxymoron... :)maybe...)

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Aaron Miaullis
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posted 07-24-2001 11:52 PM     Profile for Aaron Miaullis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
No luck! Could anyone give me directions as to where in Vienna the armour might be? Just trying to make a suit from a single side photograph is going to be annoying....

-Aaron

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hauptmann
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posted 07-25-2001 01:59 AM       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Try

http://www.khm.at/staticE/page145.html

This is the only link I could find to the Vienna Kunsthistorisches Museum (Art History Museum).

I have a link to the Waffensammlung collection of the museum, but it's at the computer at the shop. I'll try to post it tomorrow.


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posted 07-25-2001 04:31 PM       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The bookmark I had for the Waffensammlung section of the Vienna site is no longer valid. What I've posted above is the best I can do.
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posted 07-26-2001 06:16 AM     Profile for Greyholt   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi!

There's a different pic of this harness in the Osprey Elite Series book 'E3- Knights at Tournament'. It also states that it's in the Waffensammlung, Vienna.

Hope this helps a little............Greyholt


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Aaron Miaullis
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posted 07-27-2001 12:38 PM     Profile for Aaron Miaullis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
) !!!!!!!!

I'VE GOT THE PICTURES!!!

From the Kunsthistorisches Museum, I've got six beautiful pictures of the armour. They're HUGE files with intricate detail.

Now, can I get anyone here to host the pictures so others can see them? Please e-mail me at:

battle_of_wisby@yahoo.com

if you want to host the the pictures, or just have your own copy (I can batch this stuff out).

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-Aaron Miaullis, SCAer with Authenticity Leanings (yes, it's not an oxymoron... :)maybe...)

(battle_of_wisby@yahoo.com)


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Aaron Miaullis
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posted 07-27-2001 03:37 PM     Profile for Aaron Miaullis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
You can get pictures (if I didn't e-mail them to you already)at:
http://www.geocities.com/elemental_ironworks

Thank you Loren Patterson!

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-Aaron Miaullis, SCAer with Authenticity Leanings (yes, it's not an oxymoron... :)maybe...)

(battle_of_wisby@yahoo.com)


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posted 07-28-2001 01:57 AM     Profile for LHF   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey Aaron,

is it me, or does it appear that the pauldrons are mounted backwards in some of the pictures? look at the top picture, the back of the right shoulder pauldron has a crack on the second from bottom lames. the ame crack appears on the front left pauldron. it then disappears a couple of pictures down and the bottom lames has changed shape.

also there's an image that i thought migh be a negative print with the spiked elbow piece on the left elbow. however the belt is stil buckleing the same way and the crack in the pauldron is in the left shoulder aswell.

i wonder how many ieces are out there that are perhaps put together in "creative" ways?

have fun,

daniel

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Db

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