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Fire Stryker
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posted 03-20-2003 02:22 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
If you were going to tablet weave a Girth for a saddle, how would you go about doing it?

I'm looking for recommendations on what it would take to make a band 3" wide by 38" long.

What type of thread do you think would be used? The source that I came across indicated 'brown twyne'. That was as specific as it got.

How many cards do you think I would need? I would only be dealing with one color of thread.

What is the best visual "how to" book?

Thanks,

Jenn

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posted 03-28-2003 05:57 PM     Profile for Gina   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I know nothing about specifically tablet weaving horse harness, but I can maybe point you in some directions to help.

A good beginners guide to tablet weaving is Candice Crockett, Card Weaving (Interweave Press I think). I'm sorry I don't have the full reference, I learnt from a borrowed copy quite a few years ago now!

Perhaps twyne refers to linen? Its certainly strong, but I'm assuming you'd have to shop carefully as a rough linen probably wouldn't be too comfortable for the horse...

Calculating your thread/tablet usage can be difficult, and I'd always recommend doing a test before you start the project. For length, a good starting formula is the finished length x 1.5 + 12-14 inches. That will then give you the length required for your warp. (This will vary with different types of threads and different techniques).

Calculating how many tablets you'll need can be done by wraping the thread around a card as closely as possible until you get the width you want. count the threads, that will give you a start for how many tablets. Again, its worth testing, as different threads, patterns and individual weaving can effect this.

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Angelique
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posted 03-30-2003 12:43 PM     Profile for Angelique     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just a question (and please forgive my ignorance of many good historical sources!) but doesn't 3 inches wide seems tremendously narrow for a girth? It doesn't seem like it would spread the pressure around the horse very well. Unless of course it is an overgirth, but 38" length seemed to indicate it was too short for that.

Sorry if I'm way off base here, I have learned a great deal from this list and am always glad to learn more.

Angelique

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posted 03-30-2003 10:48 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks Gina.

Hi Angelique, the 38" girth is to fit my draft x mare. It isn't an over girth design. The saddle that I am going to make doesn't give any visual indications of wear from an over girth. The tablet woven girth will be a speculative reconstruction.

Though I think you are right that my initial guestimate of 3" is probably too narrow. It will most likely be 5" in width. I think I had the nylon webbing of my modern girth in mind when I thought 3 inches.

Jenn

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posted 03-31-2003 12:49 PM     Profile for Angelique     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What kind of a saddle do you have? 38" sounds kind of short for a draft cross mare unless using a long billet dressage saddle or a western saddle, but I'm no expert at all on medieval saddles. (Learning a lot though!!)

I checked this morning at the barn, out of curiosity, and found my padded and shaped dressage girth is 5 inches wide while one of the other boarder's western girth is 4 inches wide with 2.5 inch latigo. Amazing the things you go looking for when you start learning new things.

Angelique

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posted 03-31-2003 02:01 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I currently have an Australian stock saddle (no horn). It utilizes an overgirth. 38" fits her too a T.

The medieval saddle I will be constructing will be based off of one of the horn and bone saddles in the Wallace collection. The girth that I am thinking about making will go with that saddle. It will no doubt be longer than 38".

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posted 03-31-2003 08:38 PM     Profile for Angelique     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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The medieval saddle I will be constructing will be based off of one of the horn and bone saddles in the Wallace collection.

Oh wow, please share the progress of that!!

Angelque

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posted 04-02-2003 10:03 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Will do.

I am working on the preliminaries (things I need to know as they relate to this paticular saddle form: materials, construction of the tree, etc...) and am waiting for a package from the UK to decide which one I want to take on. After that, the measurements, the x-rays, acquistions of proper materials, and the fitting of the horse.

If all goes according to schedule, I hope to begin late summer or early fall with the actual construction. The first will probably be a leather and wood construct to get the form and fit right. Then the more elaborate one will follow.

I will let you know how it is going as the project progresses.

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posted 04-03-2003 10:59 PM     Profile for Angelique     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Looking forward to seeing it!

Angelique

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posted 01-07-2004 11:45 PM     Profile for Angelique     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello,

I was just wondering what your progress is on your project!

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posted 01-08-2004 01:06 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Angelique,

the project is currently stalled (no pun intended). I am currently being held up waiting for some research material which should be arriving shortly.

I will keep a diary once the project "offically" starts.

Jenn

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posted 01-14-2004 07:32 PM     Profile for Angelique     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I understand Don't you hate it when life gets in the way of your better pursuits?

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