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lionsquire
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posted 10-25-2004 09:39 AM

Hi Everybody,

(I know someone somewhere started discussing this very thing, but for the life of me I can't find the discussion. If you happen to know where it is, please let me know)

So I was wondering, what are people's opinions comparing and contrasting a solid breastplate to a segmented one. Specifically, European styles in the 1375 to 1425-ish range and practical application being for ground combat and mounted (taking a lance hit and falling off a horse). Any thoughts on the subject? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Dominic

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Jeff Johnson
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Member # 22

posted 10-27-2004 09:18 PM

What do you mean by "Segmented Breastplate"? Most breastplates of the period you're asking about came in a maximum of two pieces.

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Geoffrey Bourrette
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chef de chambre
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posted 10-28-2004 07:15 PM

I think he is refering to the Churburg 13 breastplate, which is apparently unique. I think it was more recently dated by Boccia to be more 1360's.

Some backplates of Italian form are multi-segmented quite late, but if you are refering to the famous churburg armoury, brass edged piece, it doesn't strictly speaking have a back, nor was it ever likely intended to have one.

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Bob R.

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lionsquire
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posted 10-29-2004 09:03 AM

Hello,
Yes, I guess I wasn't very clear. I did mean Churburg 13 as being "segmented" (probably not the best choice of words). I did not realize that #13 was so unique, so I might stay away from it. It sounds like #14 may be a better example of a more common style? Is that a fair assumption?

Dominic

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Doug Strong
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posted 10-29-2004 11:01 AM

Although a unique survival, there are contemporary artistic references that suggest the same form and construction. Artistic representations would also suggest a later date then Scalini reports. Nevertheless a solid breastplate seems more universal.

Doug Strong

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