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jboerner
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posted 03-04-2008 06:27 AM
    
Sources in terms of findings? There are several from germany, information here:
http://www.tempus-vivit.net/taverne/thema/3150 here: http://www.apud-angeron.de/html/inh-bilder-aus3-01.html
as well as a _huge_ ammount of pictures, for instance in the schilling chronicles (switzerland), late 15th century.
Also try http://www.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/realonline/
-------------------- Diu Minnezīt
Reconstruction of textiles, armour and daily life
1250,1350,1475
Nuremberg and Paris
http://www.diu-minnezit.de IG Meisterhauw
Reconstruction of late medieval and early renaissance fencing techniques
http://www.meisterhauw.de Nuremberg in the middle ages
http://www.nuernberg-im-mittelalter.de
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jboerner
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posted 03-19-2008 09:16 AM
Nice document, but the findings are a little but early (and primitive)-------------------- Diu Minnezīt
Reconstruction of textiles, armour and daily life
1250,1350,1475
Nuremberg and Paris
http://www.diu-minnezit.de IG Meisterhauw
Reconstruction of late medieval and early renaissance fencing techniques
http://www.meisterhauw.de Nuremberg in the middle ages
http://www.nuernberg-im-mittelalter.de
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Woodcrafter
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posted 03-19-2008 09:28 AM
Early but not primitive.
There are two types of 15th century shovels. One type as seen in the mentioned article is used to move loose debris like horse manure or mounded earth.The other type of shovel is probably what you are thinking of, one with a shoulder so that the foot can be used to help penetration. This is for breaking ground and is normally reinforced with a metal rim. So it depends on what you want the shovel for really. -------------------- Woodcrafter
14th c. Woodworking
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jboerner
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posted 03-20-2008 10:09 AM
Hi woodcrafter,Do you know any findings of that type for later than the document describes? The shovels I know generally are from one piece, and seem to be a little more smooth in built... -------------------- Diu Minnezīt
Reconstruction of textiles, armour and daily life
1250,1350,1475
Nuremberg and Paris
http://www.diu-minnezit.de IG Meisterhauw
Reconstruction of late medieval and early renaissance fencing techniques
http://www.meisterhauw.de Nuremberg in the middle ages
http://www.nuernberg-im-mittelalter.de
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Woodcrafter
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posted 03-21-2008 11:07 PM
Well wood does not survive well in the ground and rough usage prior to it being left in the ground will make it 'rough.' The earliest I have seen the spade (step on shovel) is 1180. For the shovel with attached handle under discussion, you can see it in the illumination of the Bible for the Emperor Wenzel c1410 (no 180, fol 36).Heidelberg, Universitatsbibliothek, cod. pal. germ 60, fol 6 Bible shows one c1460. The most common 'shovel' seen is the mortar mixing pick which is a large L shaped tool. Mainly because most illuminations are about buildings going up and not manure being moved. All three shovel types are contemporary. -------------------- Woodcrafter
14th c. Woodworking
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