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Gwen
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posted 04-06-2006 02:49 AM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thought some of you might be interested in seeing a short pleated gown we just finished today. It will be used by one of the participants in the jousts next week at the Royal Armouries.

It's a pretty typical mid-late 15th C. shape, crotch length, hooks up the front, lined in crimson silk. It will be worn over a mahoitred doublet- right now it's just on the form with nothing under it.

The fabric is a piled brocade in crimson, black and a sandy gold in a large scale "tile" pattern. You can get a sense of the scale of the pattern if you look at the sleeve.

It isn't Jeff's- Jeff's is even prettier.

Enjoy!

Gwen


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Fire Stryker
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posted 04-06-2006 08:53 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Sweet.

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Thomas james hayman
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posted 04-06-2006 02:13 PM     Profile for Thomas james hayman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I concur!

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Wolf
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posted 04-06-2006 10:53 PM     Profile for Wolf   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote

how did you get the pleats to stay in? the best way i found was the internal use of a linen strip

looks good. looks damn good

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Gwen
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posted 04-07-2006 11:13 AM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Wolf-

The pleats are tacked down at the waist, although I'm not using the usual "stay tape" method.

Glad you like it! I wish the pictures did it better justice. It looks kinda flat on the form, but has a really sexy shape on a body.

Gwen


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Wolffhart
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posted 04-13-2006 06:51 PM     Profile for Wolffhart     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Gwen are you going to offering this piece as a new product any time soon? This is the style of coat I've wanted for a while now, have a back shot as well?

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Fire Stryker
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posted 04-14-2006 07:48 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Wolfrhart.

In the images that Gwen posted above, the photograph on the far right is the back of the gown with the 'V'.

Jenn

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Wolf
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posted 04-14-2006 08:37 AM     Profile for Wolf   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
sorry i cant tell, is this a pull over gown? i made mine a hook n eye up the front and i'm seriously thinking of sewing it up. most of Greys new gowns are pull overs. there so much easier heheeh

would you be willing to offer something like this in plain wool? i think you could get a big market

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Fire Stryker
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posted 04-14-2006 10:36 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I think she said in the post that it "hooks up the front".

J

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Thomas james hayman
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posted 04-14-2006 11:47 AM     Profile for Thomas james hayman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Saw it today and all i can say is, ooooo, sleek :-D

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Gwen
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posted 04-28-2006 01:28 AM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I missed all the commentary because I was in England. Good thing I thought to come back and show this coat on a body.

Here's Dominic in his coat:

To answer the questions:

We'll be offering it as a stock item before the end of summer. I'm currently testing and tweaking the pattern.

It closes up the front with hooks.

I couldn't get the shape I wanted with a pullover style.

We'll be offering it in a range of fabrics and sleeve options.

I've got a fur lined one in production right now, I'm anxious to see how that turns out.

Gwen


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posted 04-28-2006 05:44 AM     Profile for jboerner   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi,

What material is this exactly? Real silk brocade with silver thread?
It looks very nice, if this is realc brocade from historical patters, very well then!

*dream on*
silk brocade dyed with natural colours and real gold or silver thread on silk base *sfz*
*dream off*

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Gwen
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posted 04-28-2006 10:12 AM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ha! Not even close- this is a modern cotton/rayon decorator fabric. We're not "real reenactors", so I'm more concerned with whether the fabrics I use look like medieval textiles with the correct woven patterns, colours, weight, drape, etc. rather than fibre content.

Whether the fabric is or isn't "real" is not important to me. That the fabric looks "authentic" enough so you had to ask whether it was or wasn't is what I'm after.

Gwen


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