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Topic: C1475-1480 Ladies Dress in Heraldic Design?
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Rod Walker
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posted 09-16-2005 08:22 PM
    
Hi all, just say someone was planning to hold a rather special Pas d'Arme with the object of breaking a set amount of solid lances fitted with steel coronels for the love of his Lady. Would it be period (C1475-1480, I tend to operate on a 5 year window)for his Lady to be wearing a dress at this Pas d'Armes in heraldic colours??-------------------- Cheers Rod
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Martin
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posted 09-16-2005 11:09 PM
Well I would say for Germany and Switzerland no... haven´t seen anything like that there, can´t say anything for the other countries.Martin -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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chef de chambre
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posted 09-17-2005 11:12 AM
Hi Rod,Heraldic dress worn by women is pretty rare in 15th century art. Women depicted at tournaments are almost invariably dressed in the formal dress of their class (hennins and V necked gowns, at the time you are looking at, although I'm not sure about hennins in Germany), or if they are symbolic of the tournament/pas de armes, usually as allegorical figures. I am most familiar with Franco-Burgundian usage, rather than German usage however. -------------------- Bob R.
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Martin
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posted 09-17-2005 06:15 PM
You are right Bob,
hennins are uncommon in Germany. There you have more these "Wulsthauben". I think hennins are something more French in any case to the west of Germany or Switzerland.Martin -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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Rod Walker
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posted 09-17-2005 10:43 PM
Thanks Gentlemen, I am looking at a Franco-Burgundian setting. I thought this may have been the case.My Lady will just have to settle for a very nice dress of the period. As I am new to the later 15thC, where might I find the sort of dress suitable for a high born lady? Also what sort of material might such a dress be made from? I would imagine something more expensive then wool. -------------------- Cheers Rod
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Gwen
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posted 09-18-2005 12:49 PM
Medieval Design makes a 15th C. overgown as well:  It might be a good option if you want something "a little different". I understand they're really good about getting fancy fabrics as well. My overgown is a bit more "ordinary" than Rod is looking for-  Gwen [ 09-18-2005: Message edited by: Ginevra ]
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Rod Walker
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posted 09-18-2005 07:17 PM
There is something a bit odd looking about the top dress.I much prefer the line you have with your pattern....... not that I'm into dresses,,,,,,,not that there is anything wrong with that. Gotta go. -------------------- Cheers Rod
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Fire Stryker
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posted 09-30-2005 01:55 PM
I'm with Rod. The lines on the MD dress seem...off. It doesn't look made for the person modeling it. I prefer the lines of Gwen's. I can't wait to get mine, it should be here next week. YAY!!!  Jenn -------------------- ad finem fidelis
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Martin
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posted 10-02-2005 04:07 PM
Hmm the pictures featuring the ladies looks very 19th century neo-gothic, seemed to have missed the 15th cenutry pictures of the ladies.
Wonder if Gerry Embelton knows that they are freely using his work there on that site, as he isn´t mentioned.....oh well questions questionsMartin -------------------- Verpa es, qui istuc leges. Non es fidenter scripto!
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