"Oakeshotte in the Archaeology of Weapons has a photo of a section of military belt which has a smaller plaque with a hook suspended below the larger plaques, I suspect this then attached to a loop or more likely a ring on the back of a scabbard"
Great i have that book!!!!
Damn it's PACKED!!! I know i have pics of the thing i just can't get to the books. The internet is just helping this time. It seems like every book i want, all my good video games. My CD rom of fighting manuals ect is all in a box somewhere!
"The examples on armour archive either date before or after the period we are examining- though in a late C14th manuscript."
Which is the problem i'm running into. There are beautiful! pics of stuff from 1250 to 1320, then i can't find anything helpful online.
" I have found evidence for a secondary strap lower down the scabbard for wearing a long sword superficially similar to Christian Tobler’s example which I suspect is in fact based on the surviving sword belt from the Mary Rose."
I think Christain has even said that he based his on that.
"After many years of struggling with late c14th harness my observations are as follows:
Most scabbards were in fact magically attached to the belt"
I think they used whatever the Jedi used to hold thier light sabers.
"Loops attached by rings to the back of the scabbard will work if you can’t get the scabbard to magically attach.
The x shaped cord arrangement works well with arming swords and a single loop with a longer blade- allowing it to move out of the way when you kneel, sit etc."
I think i'm gonn try some variant of that. Then i can change it from belt to belt as well
"Hooks cause the sword to fall off in the most embarrassing times (mounting, fighting, riding, walking etc)"
Tried that, hated it.
"Though a combination of a hook and a thin cord seemed top work well."
Might give that a shot
"Once the scabbard is attached and the belt is sitting fashionably low you will now face the problem of sword and belt falling down! It essential that the plaque belt is well secured."
Really? Never had my plaque belt fall, even when i fought in it. It's really tight once i get my arming clothes on though. Silver plated bronze from Raymond's quiet press.
"We solved this by sewing a few loops of shoemaker’s linen thread or similar low down on the jupon/cote to support the belt."
Might try that with the added weight of the sword.
"Other option- move a few years later and you still get to wear your very cool plaque belt and hang your sword off a thin leather belt."
May do that if nothing else works. Give me a reason to get a new helmet.
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