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Topic: Gloves Pt II...
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chef de chambre
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posted 05-28-2005 06:09 PM
Hi All,Does anybody have any information on 15th century gloves proper (not the split mittens, but finger gloves) - any survivals showing seams on them, patterns, or anything of that sort? -------------------- Bob R.
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gregory23b
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posted 05-29-2005 12:53 PM
mm comes up a lot doesn't it?Well MoL have a glove, possibly late 14th, early to mid 15th, it is one piece, the glove has a natural 'seam' ie the fold along the blade of the hand, which makes sense. It is quite thin leather, ie not apparently heavy work gloves It is a long time since I saw it, over ten years ago when they had it displayed at the Tower Hill Experience, but believe it or not it is much as you would expect.
Also a number of white gloves are well portrayed on some later paintings, and the three stitch lines on the back of the hand are shown, not sure what they are called but that hasn't changed in hundreds of years evidently. When I dig them up I will drop you a line re refs etc. As for the MoL glove, I am hoping to get to have a look at a few other items later this year, they are refurbishing their medieval display to access is restricted, but come November it wont be a problem. Depending on how long you can wait I am more than happy to ask to see that one, assuming no restrictions on it, and take some notes and ask what documentation they have on it. I know you are US based, hence the offer. -------------------- history is in the hands of the marketing department - beware!
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chef de chambre
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posted 05-29-2005 05:45 PM
Hi Gregory,I would be delighted with any information you could get for me from the MoL. I have until July before I need to get information together. I'm having a custom pair of guantlets put together, and I would like the leather glove of the gauntlet to be accurate as well. -------------------- Bob R.
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gregory23b
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posted 05-30-2005 04:24 AM
Ah in that case I will be too late, but I will try and get as much info as I can when access to the collections is resumed.Meantime I will chase up the images I have in mindm they might gve you some leads. -------------------- history is in the hands of the marketing department - beware!
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chef de chambre
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posted 05-31-2005 05:33 AM
Hi Dave,Yeah, I'm aware of those, thanks very much for pointing them out though - I have the same problem that you have in that the photos I have of course show no seaming, at least not enough to be useful. Again, given the history of the Churburg and previous practises, there really is no way of knowing what era the gloves date to - they kept stuffing helmets, and keeping things in working order well into the 19th century, to the recollections of the Graf in the original edition. -------------------- Bob R.
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Woodcrafter
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posted 06-01-2005 04:25 PM
13thc gloves The above URL has pics. It would seem to me from the bottom most pics in the link, that gloves were folded, with the fold at the thumb side. The index finger is where the sewing started, however a pointed piece of material was added between the fingers. The fingers were slit (separated from each other) as they were sewn. The added strip of material was as wide as the fingers are thick. This produced a close fitting garment that fit... well like a glove! A slit was made at the location of the thumb and a folded piece was added, with the seam closest to the index finger. -------------------- Woodcrafter 14th c. Woodworking
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