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Topic: Late 14th century button front hoods???
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Charlotte
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posted 03-27-2005 11:47 PM
    
Jen,Are you working on men's hoods or women's hoods? Just curious. As far as lining goes, the extant hood described in the MOL Textiles and Clothing book at least has a facing at the buttonhole area. I guess that doesn't preclude a full lining, but it's tough to tell. In Fashion in the Age of the Black Prince, there's references to fur lining in hoods. As far as length, I've noticed a distinct difference in styles between what you tend to see on men, and tend to see on women. Men are frequently wearing a closed hood down over their shoulders. I've only ever found one instance of a woman wearing a closed buttoned hood down over her shoulders. Page 7 of this PDF Has a Picture Though, if memory serves, I've seen one more, it's a line drawing, and the girl is wearing a dagged hood - about 1380s, I'd say. But I don't have it. Anyway, the women tend to wear the short buttoned hood more often, open down the front. I've noticed that this seems to be a later style, with the longer hoods being eariler in the 14th century. Certainly there was overlap in style; I'm just remarking what I see as a general trend. I guess I'd ask what look you're trying to replicate, from what year, and for what sex. Then go from there.
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Charlotte
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posted 03-28-2005 12:03 PM
I believe that particular hood is one of the shorter variety, generally worn unbuttoned, with the shorter "skirt", of the later 14th and into the 15th century. That's my impression at least, and I could be wrong!As far as lining, I haven't found any conclusive evidence of lining in hoods, at least not from the archaeological finds. We know that fur was used for lining hoods. We also have evidence that linen was used in lining garments (Uppsala Gown). We know this hood at least had a facing. I guess from there, I'd look to see if any pictorial depictions of hoods have a different color inside than out. Other than that, I'd say it's up to you, and what your level of comfort is in working in a very ambiguous area. If it's itchy, I'd line it, especially as the neck and shoulder skin can be rather sensitive!
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Charlotte
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posted 04-19-2005 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by Marcele:
I think some of the ladies in the Romance of Alexander from mid-1340s shows women with closed hoods too, but it's been a while since I've taken a serious look... so I could be confusing them with the men...? I don't recall seeing buttons on those closed hoods though.-Tasha
I don't believe that there are. I only say that without looking, because last March I was trying to dig up any and all images in women in closed hoods (14th & 15th century), buttoned or otherwise. I had all of the images from the RoA downloaded by then, and I'm certain I looked through them. There's a woman with an open hood, handing her heart to a suitor, (IIRC?) but I don't think there's any ladies with closed hoods. -Charlotte
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