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Evil_Merlin
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posted 05-17-2004 06:40 PM

Ok things seem to be going well for my 15th century living history kit.

Can someone point me to some good examples of a doublet for the Retreat from Calais period?

Also is red a typically historically accurate colour for one of middle income?

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Friedrich
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posted 05-17-2004 10:57 PM

Red is certainly common.

Doublets...
http://www.historicenterprises.com/images_store/products_medium/product_112.jpg

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Gwen
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posted 05-18-2004 01:45 AM

The Medieval Tailor's Assistant- Making Common Garments 1200-1500- Sarah Thursfield
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0896762394/ref%3Dnosim/ilectricinfop-20 /702-7741410-6381609

The above cited doublet is definitely -NOT- appropriate for 1475.

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Friedrich
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posted 05-18-2004 06:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ginevra:
The above cited doublet is definitely -NOT- appropriate for 1475.

Ok, why not with regards to your picture? Or is it because it's a little more inline with german styling and not english???

It has the same shoulder and sleeve shape, but the bottom edge is more inline with german depictions such as in Venus & Mars (except less angular). What is it that makes it not appropriate for 1475?

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Gwen
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posted 05-18-2004 11:43 AM

This doublet was taken from della Francesca's Battle of Heraclius and Chosroes (c.1460). It's not bad, but it's a bit off even for a copy of that garment.

Why it's definitely not right for 1475:

Collar/yoke is wrong
Front closure (buttons/spacing) is wrong
Front shape ("pidgeon breast") is wrong
Length/shape of doublet is wrong
Shape of lower sleeve is wrong
Closure on lower sleeve is wrong
Shape of upper sleeve is wrong

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Richard Sweeney
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Member # 184

posted 05-18-2004 03:47 PM

Hi Ginevra,

Thank you for the list of what's wrong with the doublet for 1475. The list is interesting, I know you've studied period garments very intently. Would you now take the list and explain why the features are wrong, so that those of us who have not studied doublets as closely, might better understand your list.

Thanks,
Rich

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Tom Matulewicz
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posted 05-21-2004 06:21 PM

Well and how about this one?? http://www.tvgawex.pl/~g13526/grafika/wierzchni/dublet2.html
For shure it`s good for Polish 1455-1475 period I don` t know how about the Retreat from Calais period

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