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Topic: period clothing depictions
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Scott
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posted 01-03-2004 05:43 AM
Anyone have any primary sources for approx. 1410-1420 British isles trying to find when the doublet came in and the coat hardie went out exactly,
Also looking for the same deviding like for split leg hosen and the pants type. wanna check whati've got vs what i should have. [ 01-04-2004: Message edited by: Scott ] [ 01-04-2004: Message edited by: Scott ] -------------------- I have no sig line
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Fire Stryker
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posted 01-05-2004 09:39 AM
Hi Scott,Try contacting Kass McGann. She can probably help you out in this area or point you to someone who can. http://www.reconstructinghistory.com Jenn -------------------- ad finem fidelis
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Adhemar
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posted 01-08-2004 02:50 PM
The cotte seems to have begun fading out in the 1420's, and is pretty well gone by the 1440s, being gradually replaced by the doublet. Whether hose are split or full, as far as I can tell, seems to remain a function of how long top garment is. If you can get away with split hose by wearing a longer top garment, that seems to be the way to go. With the fading of the cotte and the rise of the doublet in the 1420's it becomes increasingle less common to see split hose, and by the 1450's you only seem to see them as a sort of over legging being worn in winter for warmth.Define 'primary source'? I have some images on a site I maintain for my household/group, which is targeted in the early 1400's. See: http://www.maisonstclaire.org/resources/skin_out/skin_out.html All the images here are taken from 1400-1420 Mss., admittedly mostly French, as that's what we're doing. If you're looking for extant garments, theres a whole lot of not bloody much out there... -------------------- Ta Adhemar Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is.
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LHF
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posted 01-08-2004 04:19 PM
as far as split hose are concerned, yes you do see them being worn as an overhose. however they're still worn well into the last half of the 15th cent by the labourer class as the only piece of leg covering. you will come across iconographic evidence of them being worn either untied at the back or completely rolled down to the knee. check out Weyden or dela Francesca for some good mid century examples.daniel [ 01-08-2004: Message edited by: LHF ] -------------------- Db D'rustynail
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Scott
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posted 01-11-2004 03:16 AM
Thanksthat really helped. -------------------- I have no sig line
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