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Honguemare
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posted 08-22-2003 09:07 AM     Profile for Honguemare     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello,

I am a old reader and now a new member/writer on your wonderfull forum.
As many french people my english is not perfect...
I want to kwow if someone could tell me where i can buy big buckets for bathing.

Guy

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Guy Honguemare


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chef de chambre
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posted 08-22-2003 09:22 AM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Guy,

Welcome to FireStryker!

I think most buckets I have seen are too small to actually get into for a bath, although Historic Enterprises carries ones that are large enough to wash dishes and larger items.

I think most bath tubs were cut down barells, often provided with seating - in English books of manners (written for people in service to noblemen), then mention spreading cloth on the seat and back where the bather is to sit, so they do not get splinters.

I hope this helps, and I look forward to other replies.

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Bob R.


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posted 08-29-2003 01:38 PM     Profile for Woodcrafter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have two small wooden tubs. Unfortunately I do not remember who they are from. I thought it was Historic, but I cannot now find them on their site. One is used for dishes and the other for general washing of bodies and clothes. Though as Bob says, they are too small to sit in. These are wax lined, so be careful not to leave soapy water standing in the tubs. If you do, the soap is very searching and will soak through the wax and push it off of the wood. The wood takes a long time to dry and looks horrible with the spots of flaking wax.

All the illuminations and drawings I have seen have shown Tubs being used for bathing rather than cut apart barrels. Both are made by a Cooper, but a barrel is rather expensive to cut up. Especially in an age when they were very necessary. I cannot imagine a barrel wearing out to the point of non-usability, but if it did, it would also be useless for bathing.

A tub is round with straight sides (easier and less expensive to make). A barrel is round with curved sides to aid in moving and providing strength. Some tubs are pictured as very shallow, water is poured over the person who is bathing. Other tubs are shown as quite deep and the people are soaking in them. In most cases servants or at least assistants are present to fetch more water, pour water and generally help out. Keep in mind that most people went to a bath house or Stews. I separate the two as a bath house is used to get clean. A stews is used to err meet women of an accommodating nature. Some are pictured as eating while in tubs. And not just one couple, but rather one long board across the top of a number of tubs serving as a table top for the food. A couple of people per tub are in attendance, naked except for their hats and jewelry. If a stews is doing this well a business, then they can afford to purchase less expensive tubs rather than cutting down worn-out and near worthless barrels. But that is just my 'take' on the situation.

What would you want for sitting in to wash at an event? Well weight consideration would dictate a half tub. That is to say - not a soaker tub. It would need be a foot or so deep. If you wish to sit on a low stool, then the water should at least come to your waist. This also has the advantage of using much less water. I also suggest a one person tub unless you have help, are really strong and have the room to transport it. So a 36 inch diameter circle would do well. You could cheat and use plywood for the bottom. I would suggest melting wax and giving the inside a coating to stop the leaking. To actually cooper the tub to the point of not leaking would be a difficult job. The bottom of the boards should be rabbeted to the bottom boards. Make a spacer for the top to aid in assembly. I don't know what sort of banding would have been used. However you could cheat and use metal stapping band at the top and bottom. Draw a plan full sized, with the center point radiating lines out to the boards. This will give you the angle to set your table saw blade at. Then just rip your lengths of wood that way for a better fit. Otherwise it is just time and a hand plane to angle the boards individually, after they have been quarter split from your log.

Are you sure Historic does not sell bathing tubs?

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Woodcrafter
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posted 08-31-2003 10:14 PM     Profile for Woodcrafter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
As I am unable to edit my above post, here is what I wanted to change.

The wooden tubs I have are from Jastown at

Jastown tubs and barrels

I also have the five gallona nd two gallon kegs. Excellent quality and they work well. Wine or water actually stays cool during the day if you keep the outside wet. But you do not have to do so to stop them from leaking as long as liquid is inside.

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Woodcrafter
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posted 09-01-2003 08:02 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Woodcrafter,

give it a go now.

FS

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