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Adhemar
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posted 06-02-2003 03:44 PM     Profile for Adhemar   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
OK, so lets just for argument sake say I get righteously pissed of at someone. What, as an early 15th century man, do I say to them? I need some good (period) insults...

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chef de chambre
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posted 06-02-2003 10:40 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
FS pretending to be Chef,

I think we may have covered this one before, it might have been simply the art of swearing. I'll have to search.

Jenn


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posted 06-03-2003 05:22 AM     Profile for Gascoing     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Please do consider that what follows is just written for living history's sake. I'm quite polite, normally...

I'm afraid I don't know of early 15th c. middle-english insults (I know of middle-french and middle-gascon ones, though... ). However, here are some c1465-c1470 expressions to call somebody names... It's taken from a play called 'Mankind', written during the above-said years.
"Hey yow hens, felouse!" (Go away, chaps!)
"Yt ys pety that ye were borne!" (...)
"I beschrew yow!" (I curse you!)

Just a sample... You should be able to find a recently edited copy in a good library.

Regards (and my humble apologies)

Loïc

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Fire Stryker
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posted 06-03-2003 07:30 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Come to think of it, I believe the Company of St. George, in their publication THE DRAGON, had a whole list of "goodies".

Comparatives and the questioning of ones ancestory seems to be a favorite. Nothing has changed.

Let me see if I can find that and which number it happens to be and post it.

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posted 06-03-2003 07:43 AM     Profile for Caliburnus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I posted this thread ages ago in the impressions forum, its actually on Insults and prayers but i does contain the link to the article mentioned above!

Insults(and prayers)

Although for those not wanting to read this short thread heres the link!
http://www.companie-of-st-george.ch/dragons_1.phtml

On the home page of the Company of Saynte George are download versions of their formerly internal papers, entitled "Dragon".
In one of the issues is n article on 15th century curses and useful phrases.

Thanks to Ivo for this information!

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Fire Stryker
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posted 06-03-2003 08:04 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Well fancy that, it's actually in Dragon #1. There's lots of good stuff.

The Dragon No. 1
First published in August 1989
This is a bi-lingual English-French Volume

The Contents

    Editorial - Guidelines for the Company

    Drawings of haircuts for men

    Drawings of household items as found in the sources

    "The Lytell Treatyse For To Lerne Englysshe And Frensshe"

    List of fruits and vegetables that were unknown two our period

    "Mind your manners..." - A poem on good late medieval manners (This is from the Babee's Boke of Manners- Jenn at the time of printing they weren't sure.)

    A price-list for arms and armours

    Early phrases and expressions (Gammer Gurton's Nedle, 16th century)pg. 14

    Est Mihi Cauda Decus - Late medieval mottos... (Jenn's personal favorite in reference to swords is "It sharpens as it goes in" )

    A calligrapohic version of a late gothic alphabet

Dragon No. 1 PDF file

Compagnie of St. George web site

Hope this helps.

Jenn

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Fire Stryker
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posted 06-03-2003 08:07 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Caliburnus and I are having a "mind link" moment.

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Caliburnus
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posted 06-03-2003 08:14 AM     Profile for Caliburnus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Classic double post, glad I got in first

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Adhemar
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posted 06-04-2003 12:48 AM     Profile for Adhemar   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
I know of middle-french and middle-gascon ones, though...

Ohhh! Tell, please?

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Imagination was given to man to
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a sense of humor to console him
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Adhemar
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posted 06-04-2003 01:11 AM     Profile for Adhemar   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
All this is excellent, thanks!

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Adhemar

Imagination was given to man to
compensate him for what he is not;
a sense of humor to console him
for what he is.


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