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Topic: whats in the wardrobe?
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chef de chambre
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posted 05-28-2002 08:23 PM
Hi Cornelius,Depends on what you consider 'average'. The thing you need is inventories made upon a deceased persons goods, and wills. These exist in some number for people of fairly humble station - down to and including indigents who died as charity cases in hospitals. As I recall from some examples I have read, the indication of several sets of clothes seems to be normal - a persons 'best', a couple of other sets, multiple changes of linens (that is how the doublets and such are kept clean, by frequently changing the smallclothes underneath). Retainers tended depending on station were issued clothing from a yearly (every Easter or New Years was the custrom, dependant on household I believe) to a quarterly basis. As a general rule, the clothing was expected to last for a while, so several such seanons passing gives even the meanest fellow several sets of clothing. Beggers and the indigent arte another matter entirely, but there was an entire business revolving around the sale of second hand clothing, and tailors who's business it was to 'turn' older clothes to pronlong their life. [ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: chef de chambre ] -------------------- Bob R.
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Gwen
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posted 05-28-2002 08:32 PM
Well, we know most people in service were given a suit of clothes a year as part of their work agreement. What does that say about what they owned? That they had at least one set of new clothes a year. Added to that one could reasonably expect them to have some hand me downs from their employer / master. I read a story recently in one of my books about the Queen of Spain (14th C? 15th C?) feeling that her son was being too protective of his clothing, so she called him to her and asked him to list his clothing. She also asked him when the last time he gave something away was. Dissatisfied with the answer, she told him that on his birthday every year he was to give *all* of his clothing away, and told the Steward that he should order more clothes for the Prince. The Queen told her son that it was his DUTY to give largess to those in his service, and besides, he shouldn't wear thing more than a couple of times because it was unseemly for someone in his position to do so. (I'll try to find the citation for that story, it's a good one.) Bob R. posted the travelling clothes of some mucky muck on campaign a while ago and if converted to cash the value probably would have fed and housed a small village for a year- and that's just what he took *on campaign* with him. AM posted an inventory of a peasant's possessions a while ago. It amounted to very few clothes, a few chairs, a few pots and the like. All this adds up to knowing what a few individuals owned. Is it enough to extrapolate that Joe Average Guy on the Street ownded? Dunno. I leave it to those with more knowledge than me to answer. Gwen
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Cornelius
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posted 05-29-2002 08:30 AM
OK - Let us assume 1/ middle-class professional soldier (say a halberdier)2/ an archer (same as above) 3/ a poor man-at-arms 4/the wives of all of the above how many shirts/doublets/shoes/boots/jakets ect, would these people own? how fast do things wear out - we do not go through clothing at the same rate...(thank Budda) Cornelius
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chef de chambre
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posted 05-29-2002 06:38 PM
Hi Cornelius,Again, wills and post mortem inventories, along with household accounts are the bestr bet. Both the Howard Household accounts, and the De Vere accounts have recently been in print, and while noble households, they cover such items as issues of livery and gifts to retainers. The yearly gift of livery is of course in the peers livery, and would be used to make up gowns (they are usually issed lengths of cloth for the making of clothing), and possibly hosen. Presumably the rertinue would also aquire normal clothing of their own account. This book tops my wish-list "Wills of the Archdeaconry of Sudbury, 1439-74" I.Register 'Baldwyne, 1439-1461 Edited by Peter Northeast - . This covers pretty much the second estate, and the well to do of the third. "Lincoln WIlls 1532-1534" covers the lower classes, but is far too out of date for my usage. It is books like these however you need to lay hands on to answer your questions. -------------------- Bob R.
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