Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile | register | search | faq | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
»  FireStryker Living History Forum   » History   » Medieval Lifestyles, Activities, and Equipment   » food safe coatings

UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: food safe coatings
Anne-Marie
Member
Member # 8

posted 04-05-2002 10:06 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
hey all from Anne-Marie

I have two beautiful silver tumblers. In shape, material and ornamentation they look exactly like the cups you see in 15th century illos.

thing is, they're not meant to be used for drinking (they came with smelly candles in them :P). They clearly came labelled with a sticker that says "not for food use".

I assume that this is because the solder that was used on them contains lead. (they come from India, I bet).

So, my question is, what can I use to coat the inside of them so they become food safe? I cant find any coatings (envirotex, etc) that are labelled foodsafe. Beeswax would work ok, but is not heat stabile, and tends to flake away over time.

I'll probably end up using beeswax for now and just pick the bits out of my teeth over time , but I'm curious if anyone has any ideas? Brewers pitch would be black and ookie looking, wouldnt it?

thanks,
--AM

--------------------

"Let Good Come of It"


Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
Gwen
Member
Member # 126

posted 04-05-2002 11:07 AM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What about some sort of epoxy? I'm not enough of a chemist to know for sure, but the guys were talking about coating the inside of our buckets with some kind of epoxy.

I'll ask around for you.

Gwen


Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged
Doug Strong
Member
Member # 159

posted 04-05-2002 11:32 AM     Profile for Doug Strong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Try brewer's pitch. It comes in black and a ort of yellowish beige. It is more heat stable than wax but I owuld still not recommend hot drinks in it.

--------------------

Doug Strong
doug-strong@comcast.net

http://armourresearchsociety.org

http://talbotsfineaccessories.com
Armour patterns, shoemaking books, reproductions buckles, jewelry and accessories. Historical antiquites and artifacts from every period starting at one dollar ($1)


Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged
Anne-Marie
Member
Member # 8

posted 04-05-2002 06:38 PM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Talbot:
Try brewer's pitch. It comes in black and a ort of yellowish beige. It is more heat stable than wax but I owuld still not recommend hot drinks in it.

whre can one find yellow brewers pitch? I've only seen the black tarlike stuff. and does it taste funny?

I like the idea of using a period solution for my modern problem, but will settle for a modern epoxy if I have to :P. thing is, I havent been able to find any that say foodsafe.

-_AM

--------------------

"Let Good Come of It"


Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
Dru
Member
Member # 180

posted 04-05-2002 07:29 PM     Profile for Dru   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
If you look for the epoxy that is used to reline sinks. It should be available in most hardware stores and it comes in a variety of colors.

--------------------

Dru Shoemaker
www.medievalshoes.com


Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Seigneur de Leon
Member
Member # 65

posted 04-06-2002 12:09 AM     Profile for Seigneur de Leon   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Anyone with copper pipes made 20 or so years ago has lead soldier connecting them. Leaded crystal has lead. It really isn't as scary as the feds lead us to believe. Lead is far more harmful to toddlers with developing brains and nervous systems than it is to adults. Although it's true that certain types of foods may cause it to leach quicker than others, such as tomato juice or lemonade.
I've read all you need to do is let your water run in the morning to pass the lead out of the pipes, but I seriously wonder what is worse, a poison our bodies have dealt with to some degree for 50,000 years, or an unknown potential carcinogen like pvc pipes with the glue used to connect them with less than a 50 year study of toxicity. Prudence being the best course to follow, but government paranoia should be taken with a grain of salt and some "primary" research.
Isn't that warning label used to protect the company from potential lawsuits rather than for consumer safety? Silver itself is harmless and is eaten in India as some sort of "tonic".

[ 04-06-2002: Message edited by: Seigneur de Leon ]

--------------------

VERITAS IN INTIMO
VIRES IN LACERTU
SIMPLICITAS IN EXPRESSO


Registered: Nov 2000  |  IP: Logged
Anne-Marie
Member
Member # 8

posted 04-06-2002 01:43 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seigneur de Leon:
Silver itself is harmless and is eaten in India as some sort of "tonic".

[ 04-06-2002: Message edited by: Seigneur de Leon ]


true, edible metal is a neat fixture of Indian sweets (silver is called "vark". most fun)

thing is, the chances of my putting some sort of acidic beverage in my cup are fairly high...I drink wine as my beverage of choice at events (good little burgundian girl that I am).

I also would agree that lead isnt the big bad thing we're led to believe (ar ar). Still, if there's a simple way to fix the inside of the cup so it doesnt tarnish, leach or get funky, I'd like to give it a shot.

keep those ideas coming!
--AM

--------------------

"Let Good Come of It"


Registered: May 2000  |  IP: Logged
Gwen
Member
Member # 126

posted 04-06-2002 11:03 AM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Why don't you show the cups in question to someone who knows about metals (like Mark S) and let them look at it?

It may be "not for food use" because of something stupid like it isn't watertight.

If there is something weird or funky about it, maybe Mark could gild or chase it with silver for you.

Just a thought.

Gwen


Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged
Seigneur de Leon
Member
Member # 65

posted 04-06-2002 08:30 PM     Profile for Seigneur de Leon   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Can't you simply tin it?

--------------------

VERITAS IN INTIMO
VIRES IN LACERTU
SIMPLICITAS IN EXPRESSO


Registered: Nov 2000  |  IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)  

Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | Wolfe Argent Living History

Copyright © 2000-2009 Wolfe Argent Living History. All Rights reserved under International Copyright Conventions. No part of this website may be reproduced or utilized in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording, or by any information storage or retrieval system, without permission of the content providers. Individual rights remain with the owners of the posted material.

Powered by Infopop Corporation
Ultimate Bulletin Board 6.01