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AnnaRidley
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Member # 97

posted 02-10-2002 12:20 AM

So I've had a really bad case of life the past few months

but I thought I'd brag about one of the projects I've managed to work on.

I have long been enamoured of the really cool ruffled edged veils that can bee seen in many 14th and 15th century images (Rogier van der Weyden shows them quite a bit). Having spent quite a bit of time looking at the images I was rather dissatisfied with the concept of a strip of gathered cloth attached to another, it seemed too harsh a edge and the paintings showed a smooth transition between the body of the fabric and the edge. So I have been experimenting with ways to make fabric ruffle as it is woven (I needed a project for my new big loom). What I have found is that if the edge is held at a lesser tension than the body of the fabric it will ruffle as it is woven. I think the effect is pretty cool.

There are a couple more pictures at http://users.vnet.net/burts/anna/veil/

The stats for the veil:
Warp and Weft 22/2 linen (6500 yds/lb)
Warp sett 24 epi (body), 36 epi (1" edging)
Weft ~26 ppi
Shrinkage - 2% width, 3% length

Mitake.

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Gwen
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Member # 126

posted 02-10-2002 01:05 AM

That is just too cool!! I am positively pea green with envy!

Congratulations on a superlative job!!!!!!!!

Gwen

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Gina
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Member # 247

posted 02-11-2002 04:01 AM

quote:
That is just too cool!! I am positively pea green with envy!

So am I! Its beautiful!

Are you taking commissions? (And I am serious!)

Gina

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Gina-b Silkwork & Passementerie
Tak v Bowes Departed
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Anne-Marie
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posted 02-11-2002 07:14 PM

can I forward this to a local SCA gal who's been doing experiments along the same line?

--Anne-Marie

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AnnaRidley
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Member # 97

posted 02-12-2002 08:57 AM

Anne-Marie - Sure. I'm really interested to talk with others about this project.

Gina - It will probably be a couple of months before I get to the point of having time to do more of this sort of weaving. I'm traveling more than I'm at home and the loom's not terribly portable. But yes I'd be willing to discuss a commission... say April?

Mitake.

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Gina
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Member # 247

posted 02-13-2002 01:53 PM

quote:
It will probably be a couple of months before I get to the point of having time to do more of this sort of weaving. I'm traveling more than I'm at home and the loom's not terribly portable. But yes I'd be willing to discuss a commission... say April?

that's fine, lack of time is something I can fully understand at the moment! Email me when you're ready.
Thanks,
Gina

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Gina-b Silkwork & Passementerie
Tak v Bowes Departed
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Gwen
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posted 02-21-2002 11:01 AM

Actually, I'm going to admit ignorance here and plead for information.

When Mitake says the warp and weft are made of "22/2 linen", what exactly does that mean? I get the 2-ply part, but what measurement is "22"? Ounces per yard? Diameter?

Thanks!

Gwen, who freely admits that she doesn't know everything!

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AnnaRidley
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posted 02-22-2002 11:21 AM

The 22 has to do with how many hanks in a pound. The larger the number the finer the thread. The length of a hank is dependent on historical aspects of manufacturing, and of course to make things interesting varies quite a bit between types of fibers. Here are a couple of pages that explain the count system.
http://www.sonic.net/~garyh/yarns/sizing.html
http://www.margaret-peel.com.au/ycount.htm

To give you a more empirical sense for the string used in the weaving. It's very nice for coarse hand sewing, probably similar to 2-3 strands of embroidery floss.

Mitake.

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