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Bob Hurley
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posted 12-15-2000 06:38 PM     Profile for Bob Hurley     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I saw a passing mention a while back of these, but I can't remember where. Can anyone point me in the general direction of some resources? I am primarily interested in the 1350s, but other references may be helpful as well.

Thank you.


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Fire Stryker
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posted 12-15-2000 07:04 PM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Bob,
I think the following is the thread you were looking for. There is a passing mention of portable wooden houses that were used by Charles the Bold in the 1470s. Mostly the thread is about 15th c. tent construction, but we never really concluded anything.

http://www.darkharvest.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000038.html


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Bob Hurley
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posted 12-15-2000 07:09 PM     Profile for Bob Hurley     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thank you!

By the way, care to share your source for the Old French dictionary?


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Fire Stryker
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posted 12-18-2000 06:53 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Oops, I missed this one, sorry Bob. I am at work right now. I will post the title and other related info about the book as well as probable locations to acquire this dictionary later this evening. I believe it is currently out of print but there are a lot of 2nd Bookstores on the net that have it. It is a small book and by no means exhaustive, but it is a good place to start.

Other ancient French dictionaries that I know of require a double translation. From Ancient to Modern French then to English. *groan*


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Fire Stryker
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posted 12-18-2000 07:11 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi, okay I found the title. Went looking.

Kenneth Urwin: A Short Old French Dictionary For Students

Kenyon College Bookstore has several copies of this mass market size paperback in good condition. Covers worn and rubbed. Basil Blackwell, Oxford, 1985, 108pp., ISBN 0 631 07970 X. Our number 13,332.

USD9.95

Sue Dailey, Kenyon College Book Store, P.O. Box 231, 106 Gaskin Avenue, Gambier, OH 43022 USA
Tel: 740-427-5633
Fax: 740-427-5618
Email Address: dailey@kenyon.edu

Form of Payment:Master Card, Visa, Discover, American Express, Check or Money Order.

This is where I purchased my copy of the book. They are very quick to ship out. Nice people.


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Glen K
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posted 12-18-2000 10:41 AM     Profile for Glen K   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Bob, I don't know if it's exactly what you were looking for, but Cruickshank's "Henry VIII and the Invasion of France" goes into some detail on a portable house Hank had on this particular campaign, and which apparently kept popping up here and there during his reign. I'll check my copy tonight to see if there are any really pertinent details.
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posted 12-18-2000 05:48 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi All,

I can tell you this much. According to accounts extant, and detailed in "Charles the Bold" and "Valois Burgundy" by Vaughan, Charles the Bold's portable houses were roofed with Canvas of some sort (presumably linen canvas). There is a record of payment for two canvas roofs to be made.

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Bob R.


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Bob Hurley
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posted 12-20-2000 12:08 AM     Profile for Bob Hurley     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Actually, I'm looking for "luxury camping" ideas that are relatively inexpensive and documentable to the middle of the 14thC. I think a convenient heat source (stove?) would be the greatest find.
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