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Schwert Broder
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posted 09-27-2003 06:28 AM     Profile for Schwert Broder     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello everyone!
My name is Chris and I have a friend who wishes to put together a kit depicting an English archer from the early 15th century.
so far I have made him a generi-clone outfit of the 14th century Welsh bowmen in green and white from Embletons "medieval military costume", just for him to wear to his first sca event(I know,Iknow..half a century too early ). However he has really shown intrest in the battle of Agincourt and wants me to help him make a really spiff and authentic as we possibly can kit.
are there any groups who do the early 15th century English that could be pointed out to me as well as the best routes of research for his clothing styles and equipment?
over and out.
Chris

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chef de chambre
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posted 09-30-2003 04:22 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Chris,

Welcome to FireStryker! Sorry for missing this over the weekend. At the moment, I don't know of any early 15th century English groups, but there is a life of Joan of Arc that the Higgins used to research it's Joan interpretive costume, that shows the hight of Hosen, and level of doublet current between 1415 and 1430.

Gwen Nowrick of Historic Enterprises has the Joan clothing on the Historic Enterprises webpage - I am hoping she adds the doublet and hosen to her regular line, as it is rather good.
http://www.historicenterprises.com/

Go to "Customer Comments" under the clothing section, and you will see the Early 15th century doublet and hosen at the bottom of the page.

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Bob R.


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nachebon
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posted 10-02-2003 05:14 PM     Profile for nachebon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
You could try picking up Osprey's English LongBowman 1330-1515.

Then there's this site:
http://www.warrior20.freeserve.co.uk/Warwick%20Archer.htm
http://www.warrior20.freeserve.co.uk/Agincourt.htm
http://www.warrior20.freeserve.co.uk/Archer%20france1400.htm
http://www.warrior20.freeserve.co.uk/english_archer_and_equipment_137.htm


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Schwert Broder
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posted 10-02-2003 08:47 PM     Profile for Schwert Broder     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
thanks guys.

My friend has gone out and bought the english archer book and the books for agincourt and the hundred years war. I heard that osprey Illustration is suspect and not entirely relyable. which is unfortunate because of one particular plate in the english archer book would be great to make him a basic kit. I just dont want to try and base his kit on one lone picture in an osprey book.
I live near U.C. Davis which has a medieval studies program so I'm planing a trip to the campus library.

Again,thanks for the help guys.

I will still be hanging around but now to find out information for my own intrests .
Chris .


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chef de chambre
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posted 10-03-2003 05:42 AM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Schwertbruder,

What you heard regarding Osprey is only true regardijng certain artists - some are very good about research, and have a lot of knowledge about the field they are illustrating, and others are not,

Fortunaterly for you, Gerry Embleton was the artist forn the English Archer book, and he has almost two decades under his belt researching 15th century artifacts, so it is more reliable than most Osprey books. Angus MacBride is a great artist, but his artwork is no where near as well researched, and usually has blatant sins in it.

Gerry founded the famous "Company of Saynte George", which photos fill "The Medieval Soldier" (Along with "The WHite Company", and "1476".

As a general rule - always use primary research as a basis for any reconstruction. That said, the particular title "The English Longbowman" is far more reliable than you have been led to believe.

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Bob R.


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