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Lord John O'Gara
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posted 04-03-2003 01:24 PM

I just recieved The War of the Roses by Terence Wise, from the Ospery History Series. It has a list of badges in there from both sides. It shows the white boar that i always was told was Richard,Duke of York was really the badge of Courtenay,Earls of Devon and that Richard's was some kind of tube with a hooked cap with like a upside down T on the end its on page 32 of the book. Can anyone tell me is that correct or is the white boar the right one. Thank you.

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Fire Stryker
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posted 04-03-2003 01:51 PM

I believe the device you are describing is a fetterlock, which was a badge of Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York. He didn't have a white boar. However, his youngest son,
Richard,Duke of Gloucester, did use the white boar as a badge.
http://libwww.library.phila.gov/medieval/lewis_e201/badges.html

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chef de chambre
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posted 04-03-2003 05:26 PM

In addition,The House of York used a number of badges. Richard Platagenet, Duke of York was the Father of Richard, Duke of Gloucester, later Richard III. The white boar was the particular bade of Richard, Duke of Gloucester.

The Falcon & the fetterlock was one of the oldest badges associated with the House of York, in addition to the white lion of March. Also used by Edward, earl of March, later Edward IV, was the sun in splendour, the white rose (also used by his father), the rose en soliel, and the Black bull associated with George, Duke of Clarence.

Often, these badges were associated particularly with specific lordships held by the family (the white lion of march for instance), and were possibly used to identify retinues raised from these specific lordships.

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Lord John O'Gara
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posted 04-04-2003 01:14 PM

thank you all !!!

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