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Bjolan Torfason
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posted 07-20-2001 03:08 AM     Profile for Bjolan Torfason     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hagl Drottin & Heldri Kona!
I dont know if this group is open to SCA types but I have been reading the forum and find this an educated place. I have many questions but I'll start small. I'm following a persona of a 9th century Dane in south Jutland outside the trade town of Hedeby. I desided to place my character in raids and trade with the Carolingian empire instead of the typical "I'm a viking messing with the Saxons" So the information I seek is clothes and items of the early germans inwhich my persona would have used.

Bjolan Torfason


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Seigneur de Leon
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posted 07-23-2001 01:26 AM     Profile for Seigneur de Leon   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Good luck on your search! I, too, am interested, although I don't have the time to research it now, so please either post or e-mail me directly!!!

jfulton14@comcast.net

I've made the Frankish carbatine center-stitched turnshoes, have about half the scales done for a beeswax-leather scale shirt, and am working with Alan Bauldri for the helm (as pictured on the inside cover of Edge & Paddocks' "Arms & Armour of the Medieval Knight"). I've got the wool tunic & trousers w/puttees (sic?) as well. Not being able to speak French, much less Norman French, research is difficult.

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Egfroth
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posted 03-06-2002 05:12 AM     Profile for Egfroth   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Seigneur de Leon:
Good luck on your search! I, too, am interested, although I don't have the time to research it now, so please either post or e-mail me directly!!!

jfulton14@home.com

I . . . .am working with Alan Bauldri for the helm (as pictured on the inside cover of Edge & Paddocks' "Arms & Armour of the Medieval Knight").

Ooh! I've made one of them! See http://geocities.com/egfrothos/Frankhelm.html

I've got the wool tunic & trousers w/puttees (sic?) as well.

Hmm, I'd say hose would be more suitable. Have a look at the picture. I LOVE my hose. So comfy, and they show off a well-turned ankle to great advantage. It's not only women who should be able to show off their legs!

Not being able to speak French, much less Norman French, research is difficult.


I've done a fair bit of research on this - I was intending to go Carolingian some years ago, but never followed through - I ended up as a Varangian instead.

If you're after info on costume, arms and armour, email me privately with your snail mail address. I've built up a reasonable collection of stuff.

Egfroth

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Egfroth
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posted 03-06-2002 10:18 PM     Profile for Egfroth   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bjolan Torfason:

I'm following a persona of a 9th century Dane in south Jutland outside the trade town of Hedeby. I desided to place my character in raids and trade with the Carolingian empire . . . So the information I seek is clothes and items of the early germans inwhich my persona would have used.

Bjolan Torfason


Dear Bjolan,

Looking again at your post, are you sure you need German stuff anyway? Hedeby, as far as I know, was at this time a Viking town, and though the Vikings certainly traded with the Franks, I don't blelieve they would have been particularly influenced, at least within their own borders, by "outlandish" dress and customs.

By all means, if you travelled you might pick up the odd thing or two (specially if you pinched it on a raid!) but gebnerally I think the Vikings would have kept pretty much to their own customs, dress etc, except if they picked up a particularly fine Frankish iem (for example, there have been good amounts of Frankish pottery and glassware found in Birka and elsewhere.

an you perhaps give a little more info about what exactly you want to do with the info? It might help to orient the answers better.

In the meantime, you might like to read a bit of Frankish history of the time, at http://www.friesian.com/francia.htm

As far as clothing went, the Franks weren't all that different from the Vikings anyway. Hose rather than trousers, but the tunics would have been about the same - "generic early mediaeval", and the shoes, cloaks etc would have been very little different - at least to our eyes, though a local may well have taken one look at someone and been able to say "He's a Frisian", or whatever . . .

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