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Crispin
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posted 11-08-2000 06:23 PM     Profile for Crispin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi there,
I am another dissatisfied <member of another group> who is looking <for a little more authenticity>!
I have been 'lurking' and watching various websites for 15th century groups for a couple of years now, but have not 'taken the plunge' due to the fact that there aren't any groups within a thousand miles of Colorado!
I finally got tired of lurking and have been buggung the snot out of poor Willhelm (SP?) of the Red Co. for about two weeks now:-)
I am looking for good sources (in english please:-) on daily life in southern Germany for the period. In the <my other group> I was doing Calais English, but switched to Swiss to better match my physical surroundings... Willhelm quite rightly pointed out to me that the Swiss didn't get along as well as they might with a Burgundian company of the Period, so I am looking to make a change that will fit in, and still be consistant with trying to match my persona to my physical environment.
Any Suggestions?

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hauptfrau
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posted 11-08-2000 08:21 PM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Crispin!

Glad you found us! You have NOT been "bugging the snot" out of "poor Wilhelm", he's very much enjoying your correspondence!

Jeff and I are are the only active RedCo. participants on this board, although I know at least 3 RedCo. members lurk here.

Although female centered, I think "The Book of Good women" has a host of fascinating details on urban life in Germany in the 13th- 15th C.

It's at the house and I'll post the URL when I get home.

How about being Flemish? That's a very plausible portrayal for the RedCo.

Welcome to the boards, and we look forward to having you participate with us!

Gwen
Captain's wife
The Red Company - 1471

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chef de chambre
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posted 11-08-2000 09:06 PM     Profile for chef de chambre   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Crispin,

Actually, a large number of the "German" mercenaries employed by Charles the Bold were of Swiss origin - regardless of the 1476-77 war.

In the last two battles with Charles, the Swiss were functioning as Mercenary auxilliaries of Duke Rene of Lorraine, and fought alongside Imperial troops as well (and French troops present - contravening Louis XI's treaty with Charles following the inconclusive 1472 conflict over the Somme towns). Grandson was the only battle in the last trio fought in which the Swiss were fighting alone and for the Confederation.

I would be seriously surprised if there were no Swiss (mercenaries) present in Charles army during his last battles - not many, but some I'd wager. What I wouldn't give to have unrestricted access to the surviving pay documents and a skilled translator...

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Bob R.

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Crispin
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posted 11-08-2000 09:19 PM     Profile for Crispin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Gwen,
Thanks for the welcome, and for the info! I look forward to hearing more, and I'm sure that my wife will find it interesting as well (she's the one who is into German). I may just look more into Flemish stuff ('specially since that was such a center for musical inovation, and that is one of my interests).
Now, how to explain how I got a southern German Wife?:-)
I've got to say, It is great to have a place to go when one's interests start 'outgrowing' the limitations of the <groups with broader focus>!
Crispin

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hauptfrau
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posted 11-09-2000 12:52 AM     Profile for hauptfrau     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ok, here's the book info:

"The Legend of Good Women- Medieval women in towns and cities"
Erika Uitz
ISBN 1-55921 013 3
Moyer Bell, Limited, Mt. kisco, NY

"...fascinating and varied accounts of individual women and movements contributing to the rise of an urban middle class, and to the power that women gradually assumed."

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"Private life in the 15th C.- Illustrated letters of the Paston family"
Edited by Roger Virgoe
ISBN 1-55584-270-4
Weidenfield & Nicholson

"...Contemporary illustrations and current photographs relate the people to the places that they lived. Special features expand on issues raised in the correspondence. They bring history to life by taking you inside a 15th C. home or prisons, by describing the concerns of rural life or the role of religion, by itemizing the daily concerns of a housewife, or by commenting on 15th C. attitudes to love, sex, marriage, learning and the law."
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Although covering a bit later, Jamie might recommend "The Burgermeister's daughter", since it covers Germany. Speaking of which, I'll go dig out "3 Behaim Boys" and see if that looks like it might be helpful.

Gwen


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Fire Stryker
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posted 11-09-2000 06:39 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Crispin,

"The Legend of Good Women- Medieval women in towns and cities" by Erika Uitz

is currently out of print. However, if you use a book search engine, my fav Addall.com, you can find several Hardbound copies in near mint condition for a reasonable price.

http://www.addall.com/used

Use the Authors last name in the author field. Sometimes this is the best method, and medieval women in the Keywords field.

It is a good book.


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Crispin
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posted 11-09-2000 10:49 AM     Profile for Crispin     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thank you all!
I've got 'Private Life in the 15th Century', and I will look for the others! There is a copy of the Cely letters in a used book store here that is also destined for my shelves:-)
Once again, I am very pleased by the great advice and friendliness offered to a new comer!
Any advice on getting started is welcome!
Crispin

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Fire Stryker
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posted 11-09-2000 10:58 AM     Profile for Fire Stryker   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Crispin,
I think Gwen and Bob R (aka Chef de Chambre) have posted personae bits and how you might get started in choosing items for your "kit".
I think some folks may also have leads on historic instruments.

I think that would be ultimately cool. One of the things that many medieval groups are missing is music. I don't have my home "bookmarks" otherwise I would post some of the ones we have.

Good luck. I am sure you will find "tons" o' help with suggestions for getting started.

Jenn


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