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Anne-Marie
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posted 03-18-2001 11:49 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
this is supposed to be a whole chick, or half a chick in pastry. We do them with boneless skinless thighs for ease of eating at events. Wrap the cooked pastellums in foil individually and grab out of the cooler as needed.

A Scandanavian Pastellum (Chicken in pastry):
[M25 from le Menagier]
Chicks may be placed in pastry, back down and breast up, and broad slices of bacon on the breast; and then cover.
Item, in the Lombardy fashion, when the chicks are plucked and prepared, have beaten eggs, both yolks and whites, with verjuice and powdered spices, and moisten your chicks in it: then put in pastry with slices of bacon as above.

See also An Early XIII Century Northern-European Cookbook, D3
Recipe Thirty-How one prepares a chicken in a pie (pastellum).
One should cut in two a young chicken and wrap it with whole leaves of sage, add cut bacon, and salt. And wrap the chicken in dough and bake in an oven like bread. In the same way one can make all kinds of fish pies and pies of fowl and other meats.

Our version:
Four chicken thighs, or other pieces
fresh sage leaves, 16-20
Double crust pie dough or a single recipe pizza dough.
10-12 pieces of lean Canadian style or trimmed bacon
Lay chicken pieces on dough( pizza crust or pie dough), layered with 5-6 pieces bacon, and the sage on the top. Close up. Bake in baking pan (it can leak) for 1 1/2hours at 350o. Cover with foil if it gets too brown. Serve warm.
Serves 4.


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Anne-Marie
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posted 03-18-2001 11:58 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
oops, I notice that this uses bacon. I have used "turkey ham" with good results too....
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Bob Hurley
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posted 03-18-2001 01:41 PM     Profile for Bob Hurley     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Anne-Marie:
oops, I notice that this uses bacon. I have used "turkey ham" with good results too....

Not a problem, I'm accustomed to dancing around food allergies. I'm lucky, my sister is allergic to wheat, much tougher to avoid.

Do you have a crust recipe you'd share? I've made meat pies for years, but end up buying crusts because mine aren't good.

[This message has been edited by Bob Hurley (edited 03-18-2001).]


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Anne-Marie
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posted 03-19-2001 02:42 AM     Profile for Anne-Marie   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Hurley:
[B] Do you have a crust recipe you'd share? I've made meat pies for years, but end up buying crusts because mine aren't good.
B]

(she says sheepishly)....I usually buy mine as well. Pillsbury ReadyCrust is my fave.

I can also make a just fine pie crust myself, but since mine uses butter, its actually cheaper and faster to use the ReadyCrust.

If you use the recipe in the BetterHomes and Gardens cookbook (which is where mine comes from) and make it in the cuisniart, the glutens develop so the crust is just tough enough to travel exceptionally well, but not so tough its unpleasant.

let me know if you need more specifics than that .

--AM


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Gwen
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posted 03-19-2001 12:05 PM     Profile for Gwen   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have a good one for pies. It is from a later manuscript, but I can't see what would be "wrong" with it. I'll post it from the office computer since I don't have it here at the house.

Gwen


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